Re: hot and cold press papers

I don't get sinking paper either.

Kate
----- Original Message -----
From: "Katharine Thayer" <kthayer@pacifier.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: hot and cold press papers

> Kate,
> It's a musty, mildewy, swampy kind of smell. If you don't smell it,
> count your blessings. When I started using Arches I kept pouring lemon
> juice down the drains and searching the house for perhaps a damp towel
> that may have been left somewhere and gone sour, it was that kind of
> smell. I finally began to notice (speaking of an ABAB research design)
> that the smell was present when there was wet Arches nearby, absent when
> there was no wet Arches nearby.
>
> I loved the paper and was willing to put up with the smell, until it
> became problematic to me for other reasons. But as I may have mentioned
> before, I'm puzzled by Christina's observations that it sinks and takes
> a long time to dry, because neither of those observations are consistent
> with my experience. Apparently the paper has changed for the worse in
> the two or three years since I've used it..
>
> kt
>
> Kate Mahoney wrote:
> >
> > This amazes me - I use Arches Aquarelle as the paper of choice, have a
very
> > sebsitive nose and have never ever noticed a bad smell.....?????What
> > gives???
> > Kate
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William Laven" <wmlaven@platinotype.com>
> > To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 4:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: hot and cold press papers
> >
> > > I once used Aquarelle for Pt/Pd and got a great image, but couldn't
> > > stand the smell either. I thought I had a rotten (sic) batch and
> > > didn't try it again because I preferred the Arches Platine.
> > >
> > > What's the smell from?
> > >
> > >
> > > >Hi all,
> > > > I just wanted to share my experiences with different papers,
for
> > what
> > > >it is worth.
> > > > I had previously posted on the sinking of aquarelle to the
bottom
> > of
> > > >the tub when presoaking and shrinking my paper. It also held in
moisture
> > the
> > > >longest, so it took FOREVER to dry, unlike Uno and Artistico and
Magnano.
> > > >It also had clear spots of uneven sizing, and some I soaked had dark
> > areas
> > > >of what looked like stain. I thought for sure the aquarelle was
going to
> > be
> > > >a "never order again" paper.
> > > > However, in side by side comparisons, having never worked
before on
> > > >cold pressed papers and gum printing (before I only used Rives BFK
which
> > has
> > > >some slight surface texture but is not cold pressed) I am amazed at
how
> > much
> > > >detail you can get. For some reason, I thought the bumps in cold
pressed
> > > >papers would create a softer image, and not so. In fact, there is
more
> > > >depth to the image, but not less detail. I was using cold and hot in
Uno,
> > > >Artistico, Aquarelle. Magano is bumpy, too.
> > > > The aquarelle no longer sank to the bottom once sized with a
> > hardened
> > > >gelatin layer.
> > > > The one thing I found was that I had a much easier time getting
an
> > even
> > > >coating with no streaks with the cold pressed papers. This reminds
me of
> > > >Charles Ryberg and one other person on the list who was having
difficulty
> > > >streaking. Try cold pressed paper. Once I was past the first layer,
the
> > > >hot pressed, smooth papers would streak more. The first layer never
did,
> > > >tho, so somehow the buildup of hardened gum contributed to the
streaking.
> > > > Speaking of which, I was using the roller method on some, but
could
> > > >only get an even layer on the first layer but not thereafter. I
think I
> > > >need to make my gum solution thinner to use that method. Otherwise, I
> > always
> > > >use a 3" hake brush.
> > > > I'm trying to decide on a paper to stick with, and contrary to
what
> > I
> > > >was expecting, cold press may be it. Probably not aquarelle, as it
does,
> > as
> > > >Katharine says, smell bad. I liken it to wet dog. Plus the other
> > problems
> > > >with it and uneven sizing etc. But it sure looks nice in a print...
> > > >Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
Received on Thu Apr 1 15:07:31 2004