RE: Oiled Digital Neg + Cyanotype = Simplest Method For A Beginne r ?!? [ HELP! :)]

I have printed cyanos using paper and inkjet negs coated with olive oil
(dried). Yes, will go rancid of course but works fine in the short term.
Helps a great deal. I think though that printmakers vellum (Mars)
is another, obvious solution.

Martin Reis

-----Original Message-----
From: jamesromeo [mailto:jamesromeo@mac.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 19:37
To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
Subject: Re: Oiled Digital Neg + Cyanotype = Simplest Method For A
Beginner ?!? [ HELP! :)]

Pete,
 Thanks I never thought that mineral was paraffin oil. I will give it a try.
 I use a very ,very thin plastic cover cut from rolls when I make a Ziatype
print. To expose it as a printing out paper the paper must be on the damp
side. I runied a very important 8x10 neg once paper to damp.I learned the
hard whay.
James

> James,
>
> I have found in the past that liquid paraffin oil which in the US is
called
> mineral oil. Works very well it does not go rancid or dry out overtime
,also
> I think Kate's suggestion of using a clear-thin plastic cover/bag is a
good
> idea.
>
> Pete
>
>> What is the best type of paraffin to use ??? do you have to heat it to
oil
>> the print.??
>> I have used linseed oil got a few good brown prints but the linseed neg
does
>> not keep well.
>> Thanks
>> James
>>
>> Hi Paresh, I'm not sure of where you'd find info on oiling paper
negatives
>> apart from here. It's an easy process. I use an inkjet printer and have
now
>> got this working well....it's just a matter of adjusting your negative to
>> the process. Just ask on the list for more info on cyan, I'm not sure but
I
>> think a slightly more contrasty neg (than for conventional silver) suits
>> cyan better.
>>
>> Printing: I've corrected where necessary.....
>>
>> 1. Choose my image...
>>
>> 2. Change its size to desirable output[say 8'x10' @ 300 dpi]...
>>
>> now.....tweak the contrast using curves if necessary.......others know
more
>> about this than I do.
>>
>> 3. Turn-it to monochrome [black monochrome OR B/W]...
>>
>> 4. Invert it [neg effect]...
>>
>> 5. Print as colour....gives more ink coverage - 3 colours rather
than
>> just black
>>
>> 6. Oil the print [which is the best oil to do this ?]...paraffin
oil
>> is best but any cooking oil will do, just has a tendency to go rancid
with
>> age
>>
>> 7. Insert it in a clear-thin plastic cover/bag...only if you want
to!
>>
>> 8. Make contact-print...
>>
>> Voila!
>>
>>
>>
>> For good info on cyanotypes, go to www.cyanotypes.com
>> <http://www.cyanotypes.com> which has the instructions...also available
>> there are instructions for many more alt. processes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Happy printing!
>>
>>
>>
>> Kate
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> To: 'alt process list' <mailto:alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 5:57 AM
>> Subject: Oiled Digital Neg + Cyanotype = Simplest Method For A Beginner
?!?
>> [ HELP! :)]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am new to this list [as you all must already know :)]
>>
>>
>>
>> Also I am a novice in Alternative Photography [actually, not even a
novice -
>> yet to start!]
>>
>>
>>
>> I am thinking of starting-off with a cyanotype [with my limited knowledge
>> from online articles etc.]...
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this what you all would suggest? I have no background in chemistry...
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there a simpler/less complex method to begin-with?
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you point me to a good website where I can find highly detailed
>> procedure to help me make my first & "successful" print? :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, I can't afford large-format negs.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was thinking of making digital negs from commercial graphic houses.
>>
>> [that would cost me INR 0.75 per sq. inch... you know, the ones used for
>> plate-making!]
>>
>>
>>
>> However, reading the digital-neg process of oiling on the list, I thought
I
>> would try that out as my first.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have an HP Deskjet inkjet printer...
>>
>>
>>
>> What do I do?:
>>
>> 1. Choose my image...
>>
>> 2. Change its size to desirable output[say 8'x10' @ 300 dpi]...
>>
>> 3. Turn-it to monochrome [black monochrome OR B/W]...
>>
>> 4. Invert it [neg effect]...
>>
>> 5. Print as Black Only...
>>
>> 6. Oil the print [which is the best oil to do this ?]...
>>
>> 7. Insert it in a clear-thin plastic cover/bag...
>>
>> 8. Make contact-print...
>>
>> Voila!
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this correct?
>>
>>
>>
>> Where can I get best info on making oiled-digital-negs on an inkjet [what
>> paper, what oil, what resolution, etc.]?
>>
>>
>>
>> Please HELP all you can...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanking you,
>>
>> With Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Paresh Pandit
>>
>> Mumbai, IN.
>>
>> February 11, 2004
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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