Re: powdered albumen

From: Andrew Frith ^lt;andy@sacredjourneys.com>
Date: 06/16/04-01:09:34 PM Z
Message-id: <BCF5E8FD.16CFD%andy@sacredjourneys.com>

Theres a product i've been able to get here in california at my local
wholefoods called 'eggology' I think it was..it is 100% liquid egg white.
Comes in a 500ml bottle for about $3-4.

Looks just like what u get if u do the separations by hand. I've just mixed
this up and have it ripening in the fridge..i'll let u know if it works well
or not.

I've just built 2 vertical tanks for coating the albumen and silver nitrate.
I'm going to try using I think it was mark nelson's idea of dry mounting 2
sheets of paper (I use strathmore drawing 500 plate) with thin strips of
mounting tissue around the edges and then dunking the combined sheets in the
vertical tanks I've built. My tanks are 12x13x1/4" in size and hold about
600ml of solution. I use kaolin to get rid of the organic stuff out of my
nitrate solution and use replenishment (but i'm not quite at the full on
titration check stuff). If the tanks work out well, I'm going to build
bigger versions for larger sized paper.

I've tried every other coating method from brush to putting cotton wads in
tubes and painting it on to floating to john dugdale's method, but for me
its always been a bit hit and miss getting a perfect coating with no bubble
marks etc. I double coat the albumen, 1 coat of 15% silver nitrate.

But when it works it really works. I love the look of albumen, they outclass
my best silver chloride prints on AZO by a mile. Just can't wait til they
age and get that nice albumen aged look...any ideas to accelerate aging?

-andrew

On 6/16/04 11:20 AM, "Luc" <luc.vanquickenborne@pandora.be> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Here in Belgium, you can easily find powder albumin. It is used by the
> butcher and the bakery (food industry) (very cheap).
> I've made several albumin prints without any problem, starting from the
> powder.
> I made only the quantity that I would need for 1 printing session.
>
> Hereby my working procedure:
>
> Disolve 60 gram powder in 500 ml water (distillated) (or 12 gram in 100
> ml).
> Add 15 gram ammonium chloride and 2 ml acetic acid (28%) (or 3 gram
> ammonium chloride & 0.4 ml acetic acid)
> With no acetic acid you get less glossy images. With the acid the
> highlight stays brighter.
> You don't have to froth the solution. Just dissolve to get a nice
> solution.
> You can use it immediate, does not have to "ripen".
>
> Use a 12% silver nitrate solution.
>
> For the rest it is the same as for the traditional albumin prints (one
> or two coats, exposure, fixing, washing, ....)
>
> You can see examples at: http://www.inner-vision.tk
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Luc Van Quickenborne
> Belgium
>
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Christina Z. Anderson [mailto:zphoto@uslink.net]
> Verzonden: woensdag 16 juni 2004 3:53
> Aan: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
> Onderwerp: powdered albumen
>
> Those of you doing the albumen process, do powdered egg whites work
> equally
> well, or at all?
> Chris
> PS aren't you SHOCKED this is not about gum? Well, actually....it is,
> but I
> won't discuss it just yet.
>
>
Received on Wed Jun 16 13:12:02 2004

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