Re: powdered albumen

From: Judy Seigel ^lt;jseigel@panix.com>
Date: 06/16/04-08:46:12 PM Z
Message-id: <Pine.NEB.4.58.0406162237500.13015@panix1.panix.com>

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Andrew Frith wrote:

>
> I've tried every other coating method from brush to putting cotton wads in
> tubes and painting it on to floating to john dugdale's method, but for me
> its always been a bit hit and miss getting a perfect coating with no bubble
> marks etc. I double coat the albumen, 1 coat of 15% silver nitrate.

This from memory Andrew, I'll check with Dan when I see him, but I recall
that he said his coating improved greatly when he got a wide hake brush
with soft bristles (he was brushing, not dipping)...And then I think
something about higher humidity... Well, that floated into mind... more on
that later.

However, I do know he said his Deb El dry whites kept indefinitely after
mixing, but that the liquid eggwhites he tried were too stinky. (The
powdered eggwhite had no odor, or none that I could detect.)

J.

>
> But when it works it really works. I love the look of albumen, they outclass
> my best silver chloride prints on AZO by a mile. Just can't wait til they
> age and get that nice albumen aged look...any ideas to accelerate aging?
>
> -andrew
>
> On 6/16/04 11:20 AM, "Luc" <luc.vanquickenborne@pandora.be> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Here in Belgium, you can easily find powder albumin. It is used by the
> > butcher and the bakery (food industry) (very cheap).
> > I've made several albumin prints without any problem, starting from the
> > powder.
> > I made only the quantity that I would need for 1 printing session.
> >
> > Hereby my working procedure:
> >
> > Disolve 60 gram powder in 500 ml water (distillated) (or 12 gram in 100
> > ml).
> > Add 15 gram ammonium chloride and 2 ml acetic acid (28%) (or 3 gram
> > ammonium chloride & 0.4 ml acetic acid)
> > With no acetic acid you get less glossy images. With the acid the
> > highlight stays brighter.
> > You don't have to froth the solution. Just dissolve to get a nice
> > solution.
> > You can use it immediate, does not have to "ripen".
> >
> > Use a 12% silver nitrate solution.
> >
> > For the rest it is the same as for the traditional albumin prints (one
> > or two coats, exposure, fixing, washing, ....)
> >
> > You can see examples at: http://www.inner-vision.tk
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Luc Van Quickenborne
> > Belgium
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Christina Z. Anderson [mailto:zphoto@uslink.net]
> > Verzonden: woensdag 16 juni 2004 3:53
> > Aan: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
> > Onderwerp: powdered albumen
> >
> > Those of you doing the albumen process, do powdered egg whites work
> > equally
> > well, or at all?
> > Chris
> > PS aren't you SHOCKED this is not about gum? Well, actually....it is,
> > but I
> > won't discuss it just yet.
> >
> >
>
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