RE: powdered albumen

From: Luc ^lt;luc.vanquickenborne@pandora.be>
Date: 06/17/04-01:19:53 PM Z
Message-id: <002201c454a0$11925600$0400a8c0@lucxp>

Hi Kees,

With Steinbach (drawing paper?) I've had only bad pictures.
After coating with silver nitrate there were a lot of brown stain marks.
The paper I use is Rives BFK and Canson Montval. Montval is cheap and
also good for other processes. Easily found in different weights and
surfaces.

Hopes this helps.

Kind regards,
Luc

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Van: Kees Brandenburg [mailto:ctb@zeelandnet.nl]
Verzonden: donderdag 17 juni 2004 9:03
Aan: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
Onderwerp: RE: powdered albumen

hello Luc,
Nice to hear that powdered albumen also works without 'frothing' and
'ripening'. never tried it though. But I thought about it when
looking at the dissolved powder. It's very smooth. The albumen is
allready 'denaturized' by the drying process I think.

I did not know that the acidity of the albumen controls the gloss.

By the way, what paper did you use for your prints? Do you know if
Steinbach (B), once one of the major albumen paper stock producers,
still makes a suitable paper?

kees

>Hello,
>
>Here in Belgium, you can easily find powder albumin. It is used by the
>butcher and the bakery (food industry) (very cheap).
>I've made several albumin prints without any problem, starting from the
>powder.
>I made only the quantity that I would need for 1 printing session.
>
>Hereby my working procedure:
>
>Disolve 60 gram powder in 500 ml water (distillated) (or 12 gram in 100
>ml).
>Add 15 gram ammonium chloride and 2 ml acetic acid (28%) (or 3 gram
>ammonium chloride & 0.4 ml acetic acid)
>With no acetic acid you get less glossy images. With the acid the
>highlight stays brighter.
>You don't have to froth the solution. Just dissolve to get a nice
>solution.
>You can use it immediate, does not have to "ripen".
>
>Use a 12% silver nitrate solution.
>
>For the rest it is the same as for the traditional albumin prints (one
>or two coats, exposure, fixing, washing, ....)
>
>You can see examples at: http://www.inner-vision.tk
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Luc Van Quickenborne
>Belgium
>
>
>
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>Van: Christina Z. Anderson [mailto:zphoto@uslink.net]
>Verzonden: woensdag 16 juni 2004 3:53
>Aan: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
>Onderwerp: powdered albumen
>
>Those of you doing the albumen process, do powdered egg whites work
>equally
>well, or at all?
>Chris
>PS aren't you SHOCKED this is not about gum? Well, actually....it is,
>but I
>won't discuss it just yet.
Received on Thu Jun 17 13:20:42 2004

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