Re: tip for ink jet neg substrates

From: Christina Z. Anderson ^lt;zphoto@bellsouth.net>
Date: 09/09/04-05:58:11 AM Z
Message-id: <004301c49664$5ad808e0$6101a8c0@your6bvpxyztoq>

Marek,
     A P.S. here: in talking with Sam Wang last night, he suggested that
the difference we are perceiving may be due to the amount of ink we are
laying down on the paper (and/or using colored inks?). If you are using a
really contrasty curve for pt/pd printing it may be that the substrate can't
handle that much ink. My gum negatives don't require that much density.
That said, I apply a curve to increase density and the negs visually look
denser than a comparable film negative when laid against white paper, so
they're not thin by any means, but probably not what you would use for
pt/pd.
     The nice thing about pt/pd I suppose is you're only having to make one
neg instead of three, so Pictorico is affordable. Well, what am I saying??
Compared to the metal cost itself I suppose Pictorico is a sneeze.

 Also I am using the premium semi-gloss photo paper setting on the printer.
Is that the same for you?
Chris

I was talking offlist about this with someone, Marek, and he, too, said that
there was a problem with the ink not drying with someone else. I only use
black ink; could you print up a neg with black only and see if your neg
still smears? Because maybe it is the colored ink that is the culprit, and
that would account for the difference of opinion on this one.

I just HOPE that they didn't change their substrate, but I'll soon find out
when my box comes. He assured me they had not. And you are positive you
were printing on the correct side with the sticky finger test? And are you
positive it is a black box with those exact numbers on it?

You know, this is an odd thought; I also use the cheapy stuff from Staples
and Office Max, etc., and with the stronger Scotch tape sometimes the layer
that holds the ink would delaminate and come up with the tape (on only one
of the brands). Is it possible, that the layer that holds the ink is absent
on a batch of the stuff? I can't believe Epson would have different inks
out there, so it has to be either the colored inks or the substrate (or
wrong print side).

With tricolor seps, to spend $9 printing out negatives as opposed to $2 is a
big difference...
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: <mmatusz@pdq.net>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: tip for ink jet neg substrates

> Chris,
> I have tried Photo Warehouse with my Epson 2200 and the ink is still "wet"
> after a few hours. Easily smeared just by handling. I have tried slowing
> the printer down as much as possible, it did not make a big difference. I
> am printing with all the inks (color and black) for smooth tones. On the
> other hand OHP material is very robust, ready to be handled out of the
> printer. I would love to find a cheaper subsitute for it though.
> Marek Matusz
>
> > Hi!
> > I just got a good tip from Photo Warehouse. A while back we were
> > talking about their film that I have had good luck with. At 75 cents an
> > 11x17, I love it, compared to Pictorico at $45 for 15!!!
> >
> > Someone else said they had problems.
> >
> > Keith Krebs said it had a leader white strip, mine did
not....anyway,
> > it now does (again?) have the white strip, Keith, and they did say the
> > manufacturer did not change. That is neither here nor there...
> >
> > The tip he gave me was to print it (on the correct side, of course,
> > or
> > ink will not dry no matter what you do; remember wet fingerprint test to
> > see
> > if it sticks; of course, if it has leaders, this is moot) at 2880 dpi
and
> > this will give the ink time enough to dry so it does not get smeared by
> > the
> > rollers as it runs thru. This was never a problem for me, nor Keith if
I
> > remember correctly, but someone did have a problem with it, and maybe
this
> > is a solution. I've always printed at 1440, but will try this, too.
Now,
> > onto my second box of 100 sheets of 11x17.
> >
> > Thought I'd pass that along. OH, it is catalog no. 758-11174, UC5F
> > inkjet crystal clear 4 mil overlay film.
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Received on Thu Sep 9 05:59:08 2004

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