''I say, I say, I say'' ! !

Photographist JG asks.

''I say, I say, I say'' ! ! Who was Steinbock?

TK. Steinbock was a fashion photographer from Maidenhead.

JG. Does this Steinbock have a first name? There are many Steinbocks in cyberspace.

TK. He had a lecture which he gave to camera clubs. It was a very good lecture. It was funny. His approach was similar to that of Max Miller.

JG. We didnt know that this Max Miller ( whoever he was) also gave lectures on gum printing.

TK. His pictures seemed to have quality of hyper-reality.

JG. Hyper - reality. Really? Did hyper - reality really exist all those many, many years ago?

TK. They inspired in me a love of gum printing.

JG. Yes. I am sure many of us experience that '' love'' of gum prints.

TK. He told us the bare bones of what was needed but like many 'old timers' he kept the mysteries to himself.

JG. It sounds like he was a very good teacher. Brings to mind the name of Fresson

TK. Some time later he came to a lecture I gave; he complained that I was somehow claiming to have invented the process.

JG. What an absolutely bizarre notion of Steinbock's that one would do such a dastardly thing as ''hijacking'' someone's ideas on gum printing lecturing without first giving them credit. But then, it might have been Steinbock's misunderstanding of the English language as published by the journalists mentioned who obviously publicized the lectures by Terry King.

TK. I said that I was not responsible for what journalists said but that I was happy to acknowledge my debt to him.

JG. What, exactly, did the journalists write about TK's lectures on gum printing? Was this acknowledgement of the debt subsequently published to Steinbock's knowledge?

TK. The only references I can find on search engines of his name are quotes from me acknowledging that debt. But I assume that his name must appear in exhibition catalogues of the thirties. If you like I will ask the people on the photohistory list.

JG. ''We would like to know that. Kindly, do not leave the stage.'' ( Reference to an old music hall phrase, ''I DO NOT WISH TO KNOW THAT. KINDLY LEAVE THE STAGE.''

TK. I remember his telling us that during World War I his house was vandalised as his family had a German name.

JG. That does not sound very funny.

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BTW. What year did Steinbock give these lectures on gum printing?

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John Grocott- Photographist - London

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Received on Sun Apr 9 04:32:06 2006