Re: Off-Topic, New Orleans Images

On Apr 29, 2006, at 4:40 PM, Sandy King wrote:

> Tom,
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> I respect your opinion, but my post was far less off topic than
> many I have seen here. And there really is a relevance to
> photography, and to our list IMHO, to the conditions in Louisiana
> encountered by Dan to photography.
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> And I agree with you about Dan's off-the-cuff remark. It should not
> have bothered anyone on the list. But the reaction to it, totally
> inane in my opinion, resulted in several people using extremely
> disgusting language.
>
> And just for the record, Tom, I have sent many messages to the
> list, and to certain individuals, in an effort to keep us on topic.
> But in the end, there is no way to eliminate all social and
> political commentary, and to do so would be self-destructive.
> Because in the end what is going on in New Orleans, the Gulf Coast
> and Iraq is a lot more important than alt photography. The issue is
> not what we discuss, but the manner in which we discuss it.
>
> As for responding point by point to my comments, feel free to do so
> off list if you don't find this an appropriate forum.
>
> Sandy
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>> Sandy, this is far far off topic and likely to do far more harm
>> than good. This is a photography list. This is an international
>> list, based in a non USA college.
>>
>> Dan's one sentence comment had enough humor to avoid annoying even
>> a libertarian type like me. What has followed in has, on the
>> whole, been hateful non tolerant USA political lecturing. I'm
>> tempted to respond point by point, but that would be inappropriate
>> here.
>>
>> Please stop, this is a place that all alt photographers should
>> feel welcome.
>>
>> Tom
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>> On Apr 29, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Sandy King wrote:
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>>> Well, now that some of us have had a chance to reflect on the
>>> goings on in the recent thread I have something to add.
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>>> As we recall, part of the thread evolved from Dan Burkholder's
>>> comment that Dick Cheney should go hunting for quail in the slime
>>> and muck still in New Orleans. Dave Rose's comment was,
>>> essentially, what does Cheney have to do with New Orleans?
>>>
>>> OK, a belated response, that Dave may or may not hear. The fact
>>> of the matter is Cheney has everything to do with the situation
>>> in New Orleans. Folks there are in desperate need of some
>>> federal relief, but there has been very little forthcoming. And
>>> why is that? Well, one of the major reasons is that Dick Cheney's
>>> manipulations and lies led us to an elective war in Iraq that has
>>> squandered billions and billions of dollars. What is the figure
>>> now? 100 billion? 200 billion? Too bad some of that money is not
>>> available to upgrade the levee system in New Orleans and for
>>> other important projects in the US. So that is what Dick Cheney
>>> has to do with the situation in New Orleans.
>>>
>>> And to suggest that Dan Burkholder's comment was a "snide" attack
>>> against republicans is to overlook the fact that his approval
>>> rating of 18% clearly means that more than half of all
>>> *republicans* reject him. I do, and although I am not a
>>> registered republican, I vote republican in state elections more
>>> often than democrat.
>>>
>>> And the relevance of this to photography? Well Dan Burkholder,
>>> and others, can go to New Orleans today, six months after
>>> Katrina, or to the Gulf Coast between Pass Christian and Biloxi,
>>> and take photographs of complete devastation. Is it not
>>> reasonable to assume that one of the major reasons there is no
>>> federal money to correct this situation is because of the
>>> needless waste of resources in a war in Iraq for which Dick
>>> Cheney bears considerable responsibility?
>>>
>>> Sandy
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>>>> So this guy walks into a psychiatrist's office and he's got a
>>>> pelican sitting on his head.
>>>>
>>>> He says to the psychiatrist, "I have a friend that has a
>>>> problem I'd like to talk to you about."
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>>>> Best Wishes,
>>>> Mark Nelson
>>>> Precision Digital Negatives--The Book
>>>> PDNPrint Forum at Yahoo Groups
>>>> www.MarkINelsonPhoto.com
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Received on Sat Apr 29 18:04:50 2006