Re: combo prints

Keith,

This is what is so fun: now how on earth did you come up with this idea?
For instance, I have a blurb on pt over pigment in the book and i wonder how
Dan B. you ever came up with that idea first? Who woulda thought? Or Keith,
one day you just say, hey, I want to paint a layer of cyano on metal, and
then hey, let's try gesso on top or what??

This week I was making a lecture on alt from 1826 to 1900, scanning lotso
historical
stuff, and I came across a description of albumenized salt, which was a
layer of albumen coated on top of a salt print. so then today I decided to
do a layer of albumen on cyano and then a layer of albumen dichromated on a
gum print and on a cyano to see the kind of gloss it produces. Albumen
produces a very finely grained gloss, kindof satin. If you can get by the
smell of egg whites (kindof what I would term "foetid") it has possibilities
as a gloss for general use. My intent is to see if dmax is greater with its
use. So far the one cyano is lavender so the egg whites must have some sort
of alkalinity to them. It looks cool tho. And the dichromated one has a
hint of warmth to it from the dichromated layer (overexposed).

I also tried for the first time spraying a print with pot metabi to see if
it'd look spotty and fun, where it clears some of the stain (also on a layer
of really overexposed albumen hardened with dichromate out in the sun for
several minutes)...the smell was a bit gaggy so I'll go back to no
clearing...

I again stuck a dichromated, cleared print out in the sun to see if it
darkened. It didn't.

Oh man am I ever trying to avoid work today or WHAT. And I'm rambling, but
you just got my creative juices going...
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Gerling" <Keith@GumPhoto.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:53 PM
Subject: combo prints

> Hi Chris -
>
> I love "combo prints" of all kinds. They are damn hard to pull off,
> though.
> AND, I get really nervous about archivability when I combine a bunch of
> things because I have no clue about chemistry. For instance, I can make a
> pretty nifty CMYK by using C = Cyanotype, M = van dyke, Y - gum, and K =
> kallitype. But one fave that I should have showed you was this one that
> is
> kind of hard to explain:
>
> I start out with a cyanotype on shiny aluminum. Because of the bare
> metal,
> there is little highlite/dmin. So I apply a very thin wash of gesso. For
> some reason, the gesso sits just fine on the aluminum and seems to be
> "repelled" by the cyanotype. The metal shines thru the glossy cyanotype
> and
> also can still be see thru the gesso, since it is so thin. Then I apply
> a
> coat of size and continue to build up the picture with gum. Very cool!
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christina Z. Anderson [mailto:zphoto@montana.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 1:32 PM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> Subject: Re: Hey, Christina!!
>
>
> Yep! Finally!
> You know, what I am finding out is email is not very reliable nowadays
> with
> all the spam filters floating around. Hence, if I don't reply to an
> offlist
> message, please don't anyone take it personally--blame my server...
> I thought for sure with Kerik it was my breath or something....and Sandy
> King, same with you--I've emailed you a couple times and never heard back
> so
> I figured I smelled like Spam to you, too..., or you were just offended I
> left SC :)
>
> To keep it on alt, I found out that adding one more color page to my alt
> manual at this point of production with the run I have to do will in
> essence
> not cost me too much more $$$ (what's a hundred here or there, anyway) so
> I
> wanted a kalli from you, Sandy...But I am also looking for combotypes--pt
> over pigment, cyanodyke, blah blah blah so if anyone wants to email me
> offlist **asap** i'd appreciate it. The run will go into printing on
> monday
> so time is of the essence. No monetary benefit to doing this except a line
> on your resume saying "you're published" which some of you might need.
>
> Ask me if I'm tearing my hair out this weekend.
> chris
>
> ps I cannot believe how many of you are teaching at the Formulary this
> summer! Just 250 mi away.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kerik" <kerik@kerik.com>
> To: <alt-photo-process-L@usask.ca>
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 1:42 PM
> Subject: Hey, Christina!!
>
>
>> (With apologies to the list for this spam-induced interruption...)
>>
>> Yes, I'm getting your emails, but you don't seem to be getting mine.
>>
>> I just tried again - can you hear me now??!!
>>
>> Kerik
>>
>
>
>
Received on Fri Feb 3 18:45:35 2006