Re: Politics and civility

I also like this line of thought, Étienne's I mean.

Thanks
Yves

----- Original Message -----
From: "Katharine Thayer" <kthayer@pacifier.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: Politics and civility

>
> On May 3, 2006, at 6:20 PM, etienne garbaux wrote:
>
> > Katharine wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>> The point is that our
> >>>> political opinions should not be of interest here, one
> >>>> way or the other, because this is not a political list.
> >>>> The only thing of interest here is alternative
> >>>> photography. Those who choose to continue making this a
> >>>> political list, will kill this list.
> >>>>
> >
> > Richard wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Chris and Kathrine, I think the problem here is that
> >> some of the posts were pretty abusive.
> >>
> >
> > * * *
> >
> >
> >> I certainly agree with the principal you state but also
> >> believe that abusiveness stops all reasonable discussion and
> >> must not be alowed here.
> >>
> >
> > I agree with Richard -- we need to prevent abusive posts -- but in
> > practice, permitting political discussion inevitably leads to
> > ugliness. At
> > least it always has here, as well as on three or four dozen other
> > lists I
> > could name. The question appears to be whether to allow it up to
> > the time
> > it turns ugly, or not. I'm with Katharine -- politics is off-
> > topic, and at
> > best it detracts from the list. If people won't keep their
> > politics to
> > themselves without help, we should terminate their posting
> > privileges at
> > the very first mention of it (maybe letting them back on after a
> > month for
> > the first offense). We should not wait for repercussions.
> >
>
> I'll just add that after I wrote what I wrote the other day, I didn't
> read any more of that thread and deleted the whole thing without
> looking at it, so didn't see Richard's reply; having seen this much
> of it, I think I should clarify that I agree with Richard and
> Etienne that Dave was over the line and that abusive language can't
> be allowed. I wasn't arguing that Dave shouldn't have been
> unsubscribed, although I would hope that he could be reinstated at
> some point. What I was objecting to at the moment I wrote was the
> liberal lovefest that ensued, the crowing and the hectoring of people
> like Tom who spoke out against it. That seemed unseemly and
> disruptive to me; it was disrespectful of those in the community with
> other political viewpoints, or non-U.S. members. I like Etienne's
> proposal.
> Katharine
>
>
Received on 05/03/06-10:06:28 PM Z