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Re: Platinotype woes and now papers for pt/pd


Now that you mention it, I do remember Dick saying that.  Thanks for
clearing that up.

Chris is going to sell me a sheet of Platinotype natural, so I guess I'll
find out.

Camden Hardy


On Sun, September 3, 2006 11:11 am, sam wang wrote:
> Chris,
> Cranes Cover was THE paper to print PD/PT on till they buffered it a
> lot in the late '80s. Dick Arentz and friends talked Cranes into making
> a batch "like they used to" around 1990. Dick still has some, and uses
> it only when he needs extra smoothness. I have a small stash too and no
> I'm not going to part with it! ;-)
> But the Cranes can't be treated in oxalic acid presoak - it removes all
> sizing and turn into blotter paper! I believe this applies to the
> current products as well. If someone finds it contrary I would love to
> know. Which means if it doesn't work well, try humidity control. If
> that still doesn't work, you've got nice drawing paper.
> Sam
> On Sep 3, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Christina Z. Anderson wrote:
>> Camden and all,
>> For the record, there were several list members that said a few years
>> back that Cranes Cover (aka Platinotype) Extra White was not suitable
>> for pt/pd, and Cranes knew about this issue.  I can't remember what
>> the reasoning behind the listees complaints was at the time because I
>> was not slugging through trials and tribulations with pt/pd printing.
>> Google Cranes in the list archive around 1999-2003. Maybe it was
>> bleeding...if someone has used it recently and it is OK please
>> respond.
>> If I am not mistaken, there is Crane's natural white extra white, and
>> then a buff, correct?  Anyway, the NATURAL white is fine.  I would be
>> surprised if B and S would carry a paper that was not suitable for
>> pt/pd printing so either Cranes fixed the problem, or it isn't the
>> extra white.
>> Eric, I told you that my Platine was wrapped by Daniel Smith and I was
>> wrong--it is in 25 sheet packs wrapped in brown by Arches, itself.  I
>> will look inside and see if I can find batch numbers and if they are
>> different.
>> Camden, I am biting the bullet and buying Cot 320.  When you waste
>> days figuring out bleeding issues, spending $5 or $6 on a piece of
>> paper PALES by comparison :)
>> However, I personally like Platine and how it handles, which is why I
>> keep working with it, assuming my practice is at fault and not the
>> paper...and was able to get some beautiful prints yesterday with all
>> the list's help on humidity, Everclear, sodium citrate, lucky
>> underwear...but it is tricky, because if the paper is too damp, the
>> print tends toward dull gray and so it has to be just right.
>> I'm tellin' ya, gum is a piece of CAKE compared to this!  But when you
>> get a beautiful print it is well worth it. Makes me really want to go
>> out and buy a real humidifier for the room--MT will never be above 40%
>> humidity.
>> Chris