RE: Lithium Chloropalladite...
BTW, I looked for Pd prices (http://www.metalprices.com/FreeSite/metals/pd/pd.asp). As you can see it's something like $325/oz ($11.46/gr). 100ml Li2PdCl4 solution is $150 at B&S. To make 100ml Li2PdCl4 solution (assuming you're going to use 40% AFO - that's what I use with B&S LiPd solution) you need ~ 17gr PdCl2 and ~ 8gr LiCl (see http://tinyurl.com/yzhrva). PdCl2 is 60% Pd. Therefore assuming the PdCl2 compound is priced according to pure Pd it contains (Hardly! And I seriously doubt ordinary guys like us can buy Pd for the price quoted above...), 17gr PdCl2 should cost you 17 * 0.60 * 325 / 28.35 ~= $117. Considering you still need to buy some LiCl, distilled+ionized water, a bottle, a scale that can weight down to 0.01gr - if you don't have one -, pay for two separate shipments - if the Pd dealer doesn't stock LiCl also -, it seems that it's better to purchase this compound from them (B&S) if you're a regular Ziatypist ;) Regards, Loris. -----Original Message----- From: Loris Medici [mailto:mail@loris.medici.name] Sent: 16 Kasım 2006 Perşembe 08:21 To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: RE: Lithium Chloropalladite... You can buy Palladium(II) Chloride and Lithium Chloride (relatively cheap) separately and combine them to make your own Li2PdCl4 solution. I know that from time to time, people get together for being able to order relatively big amounts (over 250 - 500 grams) of Palladium(II) Chloride (there was a recent thread @ APUG.org: http://tinyurl.com/yfxlbo). It may make sense to buy the palladium salt alone since you can mix it with different compounds (KCl - for DOP, LiCl - for Ziatype, NH4Cl - for Ware POP) later. Regards, Loris. -----Original Message----- From: Camden Hardy [mailto:camden@hardyphotography.net] Sent: 16 Kasım 2006 Perşembe 02:33 To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: Lithium Chloropalladite... ...say that five times fast. :) Anyway... I'm considering giving the ziatype a try, but don't want to spend $63 for a 25ml bottle of lithium palladium. Does anyone know of a less expensive source? I'd probably be willing to buy in bulk, since I could use it for other palladium processes (right?), but I'd rather not if I don't have to. Thanks, Camden Hardy camden[at]hardyphotography[dot]net http://www.hardyphotography.net
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