RE: Lithium Chloropalladite...
Thanks for the info, Loris. I'm not a big fan of mixing chemistry (I avoid it when I can), so if I decide to pursue the ziatype in the future I plan to order from B&S. $63 is a big investment, since all I want to do is try the process out. Camden Hardy camden[at]hardyphotography[dot]net http://www.hardyphotography.net On Thu, November 16, 2006 12:29 am, Loris Medici wrote: > > BTW, I looked for Pd prices > (http://www.metalprices.com/FreeSite/metals/pd/pd.asp). As you can see > it's something like $325/oz ($11.46/gr). 100ml Li2PdCl4 solution is $150 > at B&S. To make 100ml Li2PdCl4 solution (assuming you're going to use > 40% AFO - that's what I use with B&S LiPd solution) you need ~ 17gr > PdCl2 and ~ 8gr LiCl (see http://tinyurl.com/yzhrva). PdCl2 is 60% Pd. > Therefore assuming the PdCl2 compound is priced according to pure Pd it > contains (Hardly! And I seriously doubt ordinary guys like us can buy Pd > for the price quoted above...), 17gr PdCl2 should cost you 17 * 0.60 * > 325 / 28.35 ~= $117. Considering you still need to buy some LiCl, > distilled+ionized water, a bottle, a scale that can weight down to > 0.01gr - if you don't have one -, pay for two separate shipments - if > the Pd dealer doesn't stock LiCl also -, it seems that it's better to > purchase this compound from them (B&S) if you're a regular Ziatypist ;) > > Regards, > Loris. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Loris Medici [mailto:mail@loris.medici.name] > Sent: 16 Kasım 2006 Perşembe 08:21 > To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca > Subject: RE: Lithium Chloropalladite... > > > You can buy Palladium(II) Chloride and Lithium Chloride (relatively > cheap) separately and combine them to make your own Li2PdCl4 solution. I > know that from time to time, people get together for being able to order > relatively big amounts (over 250 - 500 grams) of Palladium(II) Chloride > (there was a recent thread @ APUG.org: http://tinyurl.com/yfxlbo). It > may make sense to buy the palladium salt alone since you can mix it with > different compounds (KCl - for DOP, LiCl - for Ziatype, NH4Cl - for Ware > POP) later. > > Regards, > Loris. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Camden Hardy [mailto:camden@hardyphotography.net] > Sent: 16 Kasım 2006 Perşembe 02:33 > To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca > Subject: Lithium Chloropalladite... > > > ...say that five times fast. :) Anyway... > > I'm considering giving the ziatype a try, but don't want to spend $63 > for a 25ml bottle of lithium palladium. Does anyone know of a less > expensive source? > > I'd probably be willing to buy in bulk, since I could use it for other > palladium processes (right?), but I'd rather not if I don't have to. > > Thanks, > Camden Hardy > > camden[at]hardyphotography[dot]net > http://www.hardyphotography.net > > > > > >
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