Re: Arches Aquarelle and Gum
On Feb 19, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Michael Koch-Schulte wrote:
Things went from bad to worse. The first problem was that when the
Arches
Aquarelle dried it dried very warped.
In that case the Arches has changed quite a lot since I last knew it,
because it used to dry very flat. Bright White, though, does curl
and warp as it dries. You are using the tradition white paper?
kt
My intent was to start with a
cyanotype II blue layer first. Bad choice, completely pocked marked
with
yellow spots, then I noticed things (like brown-green cobwebs)
floating in
the wash water. Yuck!. It all went into the bin. I think it might
work for a
one-coat process that didn't require multiple soakings. I switched to
Fabriano Artistico late into the evening and it looked much more
promising.
Thx.
~m
----- Original Message -----
From: "Katharine Thayer" <kthayer@pacifier.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: Arches Aquarelle and Gum
Hi Michael,
Yeah, Arches 88 isn't a good paper for gum.
Arches Aquarelle has changed over time; I'm not familiar with it in
its present form (although I do use the Arches Bright White, which is
a different paper) but for years I used a previous form of Arches
Aquarelle, unsized, quite successfully for tricolor gums, no
staining whatever. I think many gum printers have shied away from it
since it started changing in a not good direction about the end of
the century.
Katharine
On Feb 18, 2007, at 9:19 PM, Michael Koch-Schulte wrote:
Thanks Judy. Not the answer I wanted to hear, in fact it made me
howl a
four-letter-word familiar to many New Yorkers. But good to know. The
mottling receded a bit but I think it's just the way they make the
paper. On
a side note I tried sizing a sheet of Arches 88 and it went right
throught
it, it looked like typing paper in hot candle wax. Translucent.
Probably a
trip to the Artists Emporium tomorrow...
~m
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Seigel" <jseigel@panix.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
Cc: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: Arches Aquarelle and Gum
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Michael Koch-Schulte wrote:
Anyone offer opinions on using Arches Aquarelle with gum. I'm
giving
some a
good hot soak right now and it looks like it "mottles" (sizing?)
in the
140F
temperature water. Is this bad? I'm just out of Rives right now. I
haven't
see much mention of this paper in the archives in the context of
gum.
Thx.
Michael,
I hesitate to say this because it's many years since I've used
that paper,
and they seem to change every few years (they keep the name &
change the
paper). I found that in its "natural" state it was probably the
WORST
paper for gum I'd ever used, including typing paper, in that it
stained
VERY badly, BUT -- with a good coat of added gelatin size,
hardened, it
was quite fine.
As for mottling -- I've found that, for whatever reasons, certain
papers
will mottle during the sizing process, but once they're sized and
hardened
the mottling disappears.
Judy
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