Re: Arches Aquarelle and Gum
Things went from bad to worse. The first problem was that when the Arches Aquarelle dried it dried very warped. My intent was to start with a cyanotype II blue layer first. Bad choice, completely pocked marked with yellow spots, then I noticed things (like brown-green cobwebs) floating in the wash water. Yuck!. It all went into the bin. I think it might work for a one-coat process that didn't require multiple soakings. I switched to Fabriano Artistico late into the evening and it looked much more promising. Thx. ~m ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katharine Thayer" <kthayer@pacifier.com> To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 12:41 AM Subject: Re: Arches Aquarelle and Gum > Hi Michael, > > Yeah, Arches 88 isn't a good paper for gum. > > Arches Aquarelle has changed over time; I'm not familiar with it in > its present form (although I do use the Arches Bright White, which is > a different paper) but for years I used a previous form of Arches > Aquarelle, unsized, quite successfully for tricolor gums, no > staining whatever. I think many gum printers have shied away from it > since it started changing in a not good direction about the end of > the century. > > Katharine > > > On Feb 18, 2007, at 9:19 PM, Michael Koch-Schulte wrote: > > > Thanks Judy. Not the answer I wanted to hear, in fact it made me > > howl a > > four-letter-word familiar to many New Yorkers. But good to know. The > > mottling receded a bit but I think it's just the way they make the > > paper. On > > a side note I tried sizing a sheet of Arches 88 and it went right > > throught > > it, it looked like typing paper in hot candle wax. Translucent. > > Probably a > > trip to the Artists Emporium tomorrow... > > ~m > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Judy Seigel" <jseigel@panix.com> > > To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca> > > Cc: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca> > > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:25 PM > > Subject: Re: Arches Aquarelle and Gum > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Michael Koch-Schulte wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Anyone offer opinions on using Arches Aquarelle with gum. I'm giving > >>> > > some a > > > >>> good hot soak right now and it looks like it "mottles" (sizing?) > >>> in the > >>> > > 140F > > > >>> temperature water. Is this bad? I'm just out of Rives right now. I > >>> > > haven't > > > >>> see much mention of this paper in the archives in the context of > >>> gum. > >>> > > Thx. > > > >> > >> > >> Michael, > >> > >> I hesitate to say this because it's many years since I've used > >> that paper, > >> and they seem to change every few years (they keep the name & > >> change the > >> paper). I found that in its "natural" state it was probably the WORST > >> paper for gum I'd ever used, including typing paper, in that it > >> stained > >> VERY badly, BUT -- with a good coat of added gelatin size, > >> hardened, it > >> was quite fine. > >> > >> As for mottling -- I've found that, for whatever reasons, certain > >> papers > >> will mottle during the sizing process, but once they're sized and > >> hardened > >> the mottling disappears. > >> > >> Judy > >> > > > > >
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