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Re: smooth gravure tones!



Hi Jon,

No please don't worry about "stating the obvious" with me... sometimes
it's the simple things that can trip me up, and it always pays to go
back over every little detail of process.  I do have Charbonnel ink
and will give it a try.  As I said, this G&C ink feels very gritty to
me.

Susan

On 5/9/07, Jon Lybrook <jon@terabear.com> wrote:
Hey Susan,

Cool.  Sorry if I state the obvious about wiping, or anything else.
It's easy to skip over critical details assuming people all do it the
"correct" way.

I don't use G&C inks anymore. You might yry Charbonnel carbon black with
a dab of easy wipe (or straight up) and see what you think.  It soaks
into the plate like butter. :-)

Jon

SusanV wrote:
> Hey Jon,
>
> Thanks.. that's all very close to what I do anyway, but I'll really
> pay attention and see if there's something I can refine.  I also
> wonder if it's the ink I'm using, which really feels gritty, like fine
> fine sand moving across the plate as I wipe.  (plain old graphic
> chemical brand)  I have other inks I'll experiment with.  My thought
> is that I need the absolute finest-ground stuff available.  In all the
> testing the past few months I've stayed with this one ink for the most
> part, trying to keep that variable constant.  (I did once try
> different inks and still got measles, so I knew the ink wasn't the
> issue).
>
> Susan
>
> On 5/9/07, Jon Lybrook <jon@terabear.com> wrote:
>> Hi Susan,
>>
>> Scratches in the ink, which sounds like what you're describing can be
>> prevented.  I've found when there's alot of ink on the surface, the
>> plate is more prone to surface scratches in the ink.
>>
>> My wiping technique:
>>
>> 1.  Soft tarlatain:  "Grind" ink into plate with a twist of the wrist
>> going in one direction, then the other.  Not a lot of pressure, mind
>> you.  The objective here is to gently work ink into the plate.
>>
>> 2.  Phone book pages.  Lift ink off plate using phone book pages in
>> broad circular motions, growing gradually smaller.
>>
>> 3.  Tissue paper.  Gently even out and smoothen out the ink with cheap
>> tissue paper.
>>
>> 4.  Optional - palm wipe to lift off any remaining specs or scratches in
>> the ink.
>>
>> 5. Thoroughly wipe edges, flip over, wipe back, wipe edges again.
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> SusanV wrote:
>> > Hi Christina, and thanks a lot.  What did you mean about grit???
>> >
>> > Something bugging me is that when I'm wiping the plate I get little
>> > circles (when i'm wiping in circular motion), of darker streaks.  They
>> > mostly show up in the darks, and when I wipe over it by hand I feel
>> > little "gritty" stuff.  Anyone else?
>> >
>> > (see I toldja i'd start in on some other imperfection right away)
>> >
>> > Susan
>> >
>> > On 5/8/07, Christina Z. Anderson <zphoto@montana.net> wrote:
>> >> Wow, Susan, have you progressed.  Plus your images are beautiful.
>> >>
>> >> While you're working on smooth tones, I am working on deep, velvety
>> >> blacks
>> >> and grit :)  Out in the sun.  I love it.
>> >>
>> >> Makes me want to buy a press and not an Amergraph.
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "SusanV" <susanvoss3@gmail.com>
>> >> To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:58 AM
>> >> Subject: smooth gravure tones!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> > Ok, I CAN do it.  I can get smooth tones in my gravures!!!!  Happy
>> >> Dance!
>> >> >
>> >> > Go looky here.... www.susanvossgravures.blogspot.com
>> >> >
>> >> > Now THAT'S what I'm talkin about.  Whew.  I'd all but given up.
>> >> >
>> >> > Susan
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > susan
>> >> > gravure blog at www.susanvossgravures.blogspot.com
>> >> > website www.dalyvoss.com
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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>
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