Re: Spanish Direct Carbon Workers. Attn Jusdado, Gago + All
Jusdado,
Unfortunately this political connection with Echague and the Franco regime
seems to have influenced some critics and historians, not only in Spain. It
is difficult not to remember governments in power which use massive
military force in other parts of the world to subjugate for financial
profit. One might compose reasons why certain photographers living under
these governments should be bannished and their work never brought to light.
Leni Riefenstahl, German lady moviemaker, is brought to mind.
Nevertheless, the Museu National d ' Art
de Catalunya gave their patronage to an Echague exhibition which was
followed by a remarkable book publication.
Perhaps we should not continue this discussion on the List ( I sense there
may be a flame war looming up) and pay more attention to Fresson and
Direct Carbon techniques and try to forget the photographic work of
Echague and details of his life and Spanish history. There were obviously
thousands of ordinary folk using Direct Carbon materials. There could be,
again, if only the barrier of financial viability could be negotiated.
Jusdado, Please clarify your personal email
address so I can contact you, off List, if I wish.
Hasta.
John - Photographist - London - UK
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From: "Jusdado" <jusdado@teleline.es>
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Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: Spanish Direct Carbon Workers. Attn Jusdado, Gago + All
John Grocott escribió:
Jusdado, Are you communicating with University of Navarra? Have you seen
the Echague archive there?
Best wishes.
John - Photographist -London - UK
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Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Why did Nadeau bug Echague re the Fresson secrets??
Dave Soemarko escribió:
Wow, this Fresson thing always comes back every few years.
So, it seems, there are four of you working on the Fresson/direct
carbon/carbondir process: John Grocott, Art Chakalis, Luis Nadeau,
and Dave Soemarko. Anyone else?
Technically speaking, Luis is not "working on" the process. He legally
has
the secret to the Fresson process.
But as far as anyone working on the look of this process, I think that
is
about it if we are talking about those on this list and those who has
spoken
out. There must be many others in the world working on it. My memory is
fading, but one name that comes to my mind is something like Pierre
Duncan.
He is in London, I believe, and if I remember it correctly, he was
working
on some tricolor direct carbon process too. I don't think he is on the
list.
He wrote me one time (a real letter through Post Office). I meant to
write
him a reply, but out of busyness and switching of job, I didn't. I feel
so
bad about it. John, you seem to know everybody. If you know and
communicate
with Pierre, please tell him I apologize for being so rude.
Dave
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Hello to all In Spain it is commented that Echague bought an old
machine to the house Agfa that used for its carbondir process. At the
moment in Spain some photographers are working with process of direct
coal: José Gago in Galicia (region of Spain) and my humble person in
Cáceres - Extremadura - (another region of Spain). Time recently Sandy
King was very near my house (50 kilometers), but when we could contact
it was too much afternoon. I had liked Sandy to observe my works with
this process and to have conversed on it. Excuse my English, text
translated by computer.
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Hello John, Up to now I had not been happened the idea of contacting with
the University of Navarrese (Bequeathed Ortiz Echague), but this same
morning I have remitted them an e-mail to try to concert an appointment
and power to see the documentation and files that they keep.
On the other hand, in Spain, Ortiz Echague doesn't enjoy good reputation
between some picture practitioners and historians, not for photographic
reasons, but because military fué and it was to the service of the general
Franco's dictatorship. Particularly I don't understand what relationship
it can have among the picture of Ortiz Echague and their participation in
wars etc.
Ortiz Echague is good known outside of Spain that in its own Spanish
earth.
I must also say that the picture critics in Spain don't consider any value
to the picture pictorialista of times of Ortiz Echague. In Spain there was
also more photographers than they used processes like rubber bircromatada
(p.e. Conde de la Ventosa, etc.) and that neither anything is written on
them. It is as if that time had stopped or it had not even existed. Pordon
for my English, text translated by computer.
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