RE: 3200 SHEET FILM? was Re: Ilford developers
DEAR LIAM, Interesting approach. I will try it with 8X10 T-Max 400 which I have. THANKS! CHEERS! BOB -----Original Message----- From: Liam Lawless [mailto:lawless@bulldoghome.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 7:38 PM To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: RE: 3200 SHEET FILM? was Re: Ilford developers Bob, I develop film for a guy who severely underexposes 400 ASA films - says he exposes at 1600, but he doesn't use a light meter and I reckon it's more like 3200 or 6400. I get pretty good results giving them semi-stand development in deep tanks - 32 mins. in stock D-76 at 21 deg. C, with 30 secs. vigorous agitation every 10 minutes (which allows three short coffee breaks). It helps if the images are not too contrasty and shadow detail is not too important (though I get more than I originally expected), but this extreme treatment does produce nice, punchy midtones. A bit grainy, as you'd expect (well, actually quite a lot grainy), but if you're prepared to sacrifice 2 or 3 sheets on tests I think you might find something you like. This chap uses mainly T-Max, Delta and Neopan, btw, and I give them all the same time. Liam P.S. He shoots large amounts of film all over the world, but I've never seen any with X-ray damage. -----Original Message----- From: BOB KISS [mailto:bobkiss@caribsurf.com] Sent: 18 September 2007 21:46 To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: RE: 3200 SHEET FILM? was Re: Ilford developers DEAR DAN, Thanks for the reply. I never thought about leaky film holders. 3200 is three stops faster than 400. It would make sense to spend a few sheets testing holders. As you say, we photographers should be able to deal with that. Can you imagine what you could do with those three extra stops in 8X10 or even 5X7? The really large format folks (11X14 and up) would love it even more. Are you on the Large Format Forum? If so, might you post the question to them? They would be a natural market for 8X10 or larger 3200 speed film. As Richard Knoppow pointed out, Ilford won't stock and sell it if there isn't any market. CHEERS! BPB -----Original Message----- From: Dan Burkholder [mailto:fdanb@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 2:34 PM To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: Re: 3200 SHEET FILM? was Re: Ilford developers Hey Bob, Good question. Years ago I asked a Kodak rep about that (and you know their reputation for farsightedness) and, if memory serves, he said something about fog concerns with leaky film holders and such. Seems like that shouldn't be their concern as much as the photographer's. I never shot the Delta 3200 but I loved the tonal characteristics of Kodak's TMZ film at EI 800. Wonderful toe and shoulder behavior. Dan BOB KISS wrote on 9/14/07, 2:43 PM: > DEAR LIST, > I have always wondered why neither Kodak nor Ilford have sold their > 3200 speed films as sheet films. Where else would one really LOVE the > speed > and not care as much about the grain? Don't you find that curious? > I lust after Delta 3200 in 8X10. Can you imagine that speed? Even > after filter factors and/or bellow factors you could use a high F# and > not > have to expose for seconds! > Anyone know anyone at those places? Maybe we could induce them to > make some in those sizes? > CHEERS! > BOB > -- www.DanBurkholder.com www.TinyTutorials.com __________ NOD32 2539 (20070918) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __________ NOD32 2539 (20070918) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
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