Re: problems affixing Masa to support
Not so fast! I'll figure out a way to make this work, but I'm afraid the time and effort might negate any monetary advantage. Besides, it would cost more to ship it than it would be worth. I've decided to contain my desire for Big Images and have cut the Masa sheets in half.
I'm using 3M adhesive and am squeezing out the ripples with brute force, using a massive brayer. The ripples come back when the gelatin is brushed on, but seem to go away again when it dries.
On 11/2/07, Loris Medici <mail@loris.medici.name> wrote:
Hi Keith, I'm sad to hear that you have problems with affixing Masa
paper to the support. I never tried to affix the whole 21x31" sheet
using 3M photo mount myself -> the biggest piece I did was 11x14". I
also got wrinkles / ripples after gelatine sizing few times (2 or 3),
and the cause was always poor contact in the affixing stage. In that
case, small air pockets remain under paper and when you hit with hot
gelatine sizing, the air expands and then you get those marks when the
paper is dry.
Why don't you size first and then affix? Is it because the paper curls
severely after sizing? (not IME BTW...)
I hope you'll find a way to manage those big sizes... If not, just
send the paper to me -> I will gladly help you in getting rid of it
since I need a second pack ;)
Best regards,
Loris.
Quoting Keith Gerling <
keith.gerling@gmail.com
>:
> Thanks, Dave. That's a good idea, as I'm not getting anywhere with the 3M
> adhesive route. I have since found Loris' detailed instructions for
> lowering the sticky support onto the paper. This works pretty good! But
> I've found that the paper, once fixed to the support, still develops ripples
> when it is sized with gelatin. So, I'm thinking it needs to be pre-shrunk,
> which appears will introduce all kinds of distortions into the dried paper
> anyway. So wet is the way to go. These Masa pieces are pretty large. Not
> as large as wallpaper, but pretty near.
>
> Keith
>
>
www.gumphoto.com
>
> On 11/2/07, Dave Soemarko <fotodave@dsoemarko.us> wrote:
>>
>> You can use the wet mounting method used by brush painters. It is very
>> hard to describe with words, but I found that there are some videos on
>> youtube.com. Search for "mounting paper" or "paper mounting" and you
>> should see some.
>>
>> In reality it is probably best if someone can show it to you once. After
>> you do it once, it is very easy.
>>
>>
>> Dave S
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Keith Gerling [mailto:keith.gerling@gmail.com
]
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2007 1:40 PM
>> *To:*
alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
>> *Subject:* problems affixing Masa to support
>>
>> I couldn't resist the cheap price of Masa paper and so I'm trying to head
>> in the route of Loris and mount it to a support. I'm having problems.
>> Loris, do you have any tips on how to mount this stuff? I can't use 3M
>> adhesive because the paper is too flimsy and there is no "wiggle room".
>> Once the paper touches the support I can't move it and I cannot find a way,
>> even using rollers, etc to assure that the paper goes on evenly. Using a
>> squeegee to affix the Masa with gelatin provides a easy way to apply, as I
>> can reposition easily, but I have doubts as to whether a gelatin "glue" will
>> withstand several long water baths.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
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