Re: Defining "post-modernism" -- WAS--- First define "post-modern"photography, dammit
Please excuse my unqualified conclusions and suggestions. And I meant
Bahktin and Derrida......
Bob
On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Bob and Carla wrote:
for clarification....the post-structural movement that resulted
from post-modernism had some very interesting things done by Roland
Barthes and Umberto Eco's semiotics....then opening into what is
populary referred to as "deconstructionist" field that included
Paul DeMann, Noam Chomsky and the French deconstructionists
including Michael Baktihn.
My issue with deconstruction is the factor we are addressing
here. Reinterpretation of ideas by people outside of the original
experience. For example, I've seen comments like this, "T.S. Eliot
cannot be taken for his stated interests or intentions because his
post-Fruedian expatriation made him pathologically incapable to
understand his own thoughts and intentions. Therefore, we will take
words as symbols and re-analyze his art. and determine for
ourselves what he was saying." For my money, this sounds like neo-
Maoist re-education.
Bob
On Nov 19, 2007, at 8:32 AM, Bob and Carla wrote:
I think that this conclusion is pointing more towards post-
structural theory and criticism.....which as much followed
postmodernism (re-inventing history, etc.)
Bob
On Nov 19, 2007, at 8:14 AM, Katharine Thayer wrote:
On Nov 18, 2007, at 8:33 PM, Don Sweet wrote:
Isn't it more plausible that the rise of PM ideas has directly
contributed
to the recent success of war rhetoric ......
I think you're onto something here. Several years ago I read a
well-written and well-thought book by a Bosnian academic who had
survived the siege of Sarajevo and argued rather persuasively
that postmodern thought and literature was in large part
responsible for the Bosnian war.
PM education, I believe, also largely responsible for the
inability of many on this list to consider issues from a
scientific viewpoint, leading to a tendency to misperceive
differing observation as personal attack, or to accept anecdote,
or even entirely unsubstantiated opinion, as proof. (To bring
this back somewhat in range of topic.)
kt
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