On Nov 29, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Keith Gerling wrote:
> Thanks. I had already found that article, and I really DO intend
> to try Mark's system this winter. Honest!
>
> Lately I've been making prints with lith negatives that I buried
> last year in the back yard under a foot of Illinois's finest black
> topsoil. Various organisms have eaten away at the gelatin and the
> negs look really nice. The prints look pretty bad though. Maybe I
> should have used a "tighter" approach when I made these negatives!
>
> Keith
>
> On Nov 29, 2007 1:08 PM, Don Bryant <
dsbryant@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Keith,
>
>
> Opps, I gave the wrong link for Keith Schrieber's digital pyro
> article, here is the correct one:
>
>
>
http://web.mac.com/j.k.schreiber/JKSchreiber/Articles/Entries/> 2007/6/15_Pyro_Colorized_Digital_Negatives_for_the_Epson_1280.html
>
>
> This article is targeted to toward the Epson 1280 but the same
> method can be used for other printers. Of course other digital
> methods for producing digital negatives can be used such as Mark
> Nelson's PDN system or the Reeder/Hinkel method using QTR. But
> these are approaches are rather technical and as I recall you
> prefer a looser non regimented approach to your workflow so these
> methods may not appeal to you.
>
>
> Don Bryant
>
>
>
> From: Keith Gerling [mailto:
keith.gerling@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:40 PM
> To:
alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca> Subject: Inkjet negs: Pigment vs. Dye, etc.
>
>
> I've recently been given an Epson 7600 printer. It needs ink, and
> Epson ink isn't cheap, and I'm pondering how I can use this monster
> to make big negatives for gum prints. I've been way out of
> circulation on the topic of inkjet negatives, only just recently
> having hooked up an Epson 1280 to make my first paper negatives in
> about 8 years, so I'm pretty clueless about how to proceed. Maybe
> someone here can steer me in the right direction regarding this 7600.
>
> My goal is to use this 7600 to make paper inkjet negatives. The
> 7600 uses Ultrachrome inks, which I gather is an archival pigment-
> based ink. So I'm wondering:
>
> 1) Can one make usable paper negatives using pigment inks? Are dye-
> based inks better? (Here let me insert my own hunch, limited in
> scope by my never having used pigment inks: I'm assuming that dye,
> which will sink into the paper rather than sitting on the surface
> would make a better inkjet neg)
>
> 2) I'm told that Epson pigment-ink printers can never be switched
> over to dye-based inks. Is this true? Seeing as how re-fillable
> cartridges are still available, would the printer really "care"
> what liquid is coursing through its mechanism? Keep in mind, I'm
> not looking for archival-ness or "print-perfection", just a way of
> producing something that will block light.
>
> 3) Any thoughts on what paper to use? I've seen some pretty good
> prices and paper rolls (here, for instance: http://
>
www.freedompaper.com/s.nl/it.I/id.34/.f ) but I have no idea
> whether this kind of paper is appropriate for dye OR pigment. It
> is really difficult to glean any kind of information on-line or
> from vendors, because the topic of producing inkjet negatives is so
> different from the "fine-art print" that this machine was intended
> for.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Keith
>
>
>