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Re: Mareks Use of Javel Water with Gum

Marek, it's fascinating that that rather cool assessment of the technique is what got you interested. My reaction so far is similar to the author's , but thanks to your persistence and your and Loris's examples, I can see that it offers something that I haven't yet been able to demonstrate. But I'm glad to know from the excerpt that I'm not the first one to get that same kind of result; thanks for posting.

On Dec 5, 2007, at 11:17 AM, Marek Matusz wrote:

This was posted on the list a few years back and got me started


Handbook of Photography

Keith Henney and Beverley Dudley

1939, New York and London,

Whittelsey House division of The McGraw-Hill Book Co.

Fresson Printing

Javelle Water

It is sometimes recommended that the Fresson paper be greatly overprinted and given
a preliminary soaking in Javelle water before development. The writer has found this
technique to be altogether unsatisfactory; the great desirability of Fresson lies in
the extreamely delicate manner in which it renders the gradations of the negative,
together with the beauty of the surface of the finished print, but the treatment
with Javelle water increases the contrast, loses the finer gradations, and gives a
coarse and grainy texture to the surface. The result is quite foreign to the best
expression possible with the medium.

Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 18:30:25 +0000
From: john.grocott403@ntlworld.com
Subject: Mareks Use of Javel Water with Gum
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca

Marek and All,
You said you could not remember when or where you came across Javel Water.
Perhaps it was some years ago you may have read this? Its always enlightening to back track on the development of methods being used, today.

But I dont see how the Arvel process could have produced better results than Loris and yourself are getting, now, using Javel Water.

Best Wishes
John - Photographist - London - UK

To clarify a little further and to quote the next para in Nadeau's, ''Gum
>> Dichromate.'' 1987. Page 76 Chapter V1:-
>> ''Mouret, mentioning the work of Charles W . Miller writes :
>> ''Early in the morning, he places a piece of sensitized Fresson paper in
>> contact with a paper negative outside of the window, and leaves it there
>> all day long without the least inspection. In the evening, he transfers
>> the paper into the cold water bath for 4 minutes and then into another
>> tray containing a mixture of 1 ounce of Javelle water and 3 6 ounces of
>> ordinary tap water. Now the paper must be watched very carefully, and as
>> soon as the edges begin to lighten it must be instantly removed and placed
>> either on a glass or tin plate, or in an empty tray. It may now be
>> sprayed carefully under the tap, or better with the aid of a rubber hose
>> carrying a glass or hard rubber tip, to enable the operator to direct a
>> fine jet of water just at the point where it is momentarily required. The
>> entire surface must be treated in this fashion, until the desired degree
>> of density has been reached, whereupon the picture may be hung up for
>> drying.''
>> Charles M. Mouret. ''The Fresson Direct Carbon Printing Process'', The
>> American Annual of Photography. (1929 ) pp 179 -182 ''

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