Re: archivalness of gum
 
 
No...it was a discussion about something else, and he brought up the point 
about "gum not being the most archival process" and I was shocked because I 
had always told my students it was the most archival process there was, and 
was worried I would have to recant.  Thus this point is very important to 
me.  I have always also said pt/pd was up there, but thought gum/carbon were 
still higher.  However, in my convo with him, I was "all about gum" and 
didn't even think to ask about pt/pd. 
Chris 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Diana Bloomfield" <dhbloomfield@bellsouth.net> 
To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca> 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 8:16 AM 
Subject: Re: archivalness of gum
 Thanks, Chris.  Yes, Marek mentioned that about the gum layer over  the 
pt/pd possibly working as sort of a preservation tool-- which is  good to 
know.  Again, I'm really curious -- since the curator  disagreed with you 
about carbon and gum being the "most archival,"  did she say what she 
thought was-- in her estimation? 
 
On Dec 20, 2007, at 11:38 PM, Christina Z. Anderson wrote: 
 
Diana, 
I am not sure how much time it took to transfer, but it seemed like  it 
was 
decades.  Also, it was a faint ghost of an image, and I would wager  a 
bet 
that even with the transfer of some of the metal to paper in  contact, a 
platinum print is still way up there in archivalness, in the same 
category 
as carbon and gum. 
 
If one thinks about it, look at BW paper--I've seen Becher Typology 
Water 
Towers hanging on the walls of the Walker in Mpls that already were 
showing 
brown spots and silvering out and such.  And then think of albumen 
prints 
that turn yellow with time.  One reason gum printing was so  exciting in 
the 
beginning was that it was an answer to the fading of silver nitrate 
based 
prints at that time--people wanted something that had more  permanence 
than 
what they were finding in a few short years was fading.  Luckily I 
xeroxed 
those discussions from the early 1860's when gum and carbon came on  the 
horizon.  There is no silver to fade or fox or spot, just pigment  and 
gum 
and paper and very little dichromate left.  Well, and now some sodium 
hypochlorite in Marek's prints :) 
 
So by comparison, so I thought, gum, carbon and platinum were the  best. 
OH, 
and guess what--if the gum layer is on top of the pt/pd print, it  would 
prevent the ghosting from occurring by acting as a barrier to the  paper 
in 
contact with the print, so in fact it should HELP with any  shortcomings 
pt/pd may have! 
Chris 
 
Christina Z. Anderson 
Assistant Professor 
Photo Option Coordinator 
Montana State University 
Box 173350 
Bozeman, MT  59717 
406.994.6219 
CZAphotography.com 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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