RE: math question verrrrrry off topic
LOL! LOL! :-D You guys are great! Thanks for the morning laugh! Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Bogdan Karasek [mailto:bkarasek@videotron.ca] > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:25 AM > To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca > Subject: Re: math question verrrrrry off topic > > Hi, > > I taught Philosophy for 32 years in a Junior College; heard > them all. > I believe you. :) Had a student who came to me in similar > circumstances, except he had the wrong teacher; he thought I > was the Phys Ed teacher. > > Bogdan > > Katharine Thayer wrote: > > While we're way off topic, once when I was teaching > statistics, a guy > > appeared at my office door just as I was going to the classroom to > > give the last lecture of the term, and said, "I haven't > come to class > > all term; have I missed anything?" True story. > > kt > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Dave S wrote: > > > >> Well, I am OT again. If it gets too much, just let me > know. I don't > >> know, somehow as I grow older, I seem to like things on > the lighter > >> side. > >> > >> Tonight I went to a meeting. I worked with university > students a lot. > >> Tonight I chatted to a young sophomore. He is really a smart guy. > >> During the > >> chat, I asked him how early did he have to go to school > (because it > >> is cold here in MI in the morning). He said it doesn't > matter because > >> he skipped most of his classes (he is an engineering student. > >> Engineering subjects are more standardized and "fixed" > especially for > >> freshmen/sophomores so you can learn them yourself from > textbook and > >> homeworks). > >> > >> Then he said, "for my 1st and 3rd semester I skipped > almost all the > >> classes, and I got a GPA of 3.9. The 2nd semester I > attended almost > >> all of my classes, and I got a GPA of 3.6; so my > conclusion is it is > >> better to skip classes." > >> > >> Talk about making conclusion from statistical data, huh? :-) > >> > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Katharine Thayer [mailto:kthayer@pacifier.com] > >>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:49 PM > >>> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca > >>> Subject: Re: math question verrrrrry off topic > >>> > >>> :--) > >>> > >>> > >>> On Jan 18, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Diana Bloomfield wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hey Katharine, > >>>> > >>>> I don't know-- maybe. I honestly didn't read the other > answers. > >>>> :) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 18, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Katharine Thayer wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Hmm, I thought that's what we all already have said, isn't it? > >>>>> That that theoretical probability (1/4x1/4x1/4) would > hold only if > >>>>> assumptions were met, and since assumptions are > obviously not met > >>>>> (for example, judging is not a random lottery of course > >>>>> > >>> but is done > >>> > >>>>> on the basis of criteria, arbitrary or otherwise but > certainly not > >>>>> random). Also, no one has said whether the 600 entries > >>>>> > >>> are 600 works > >>> > >>>>> or 600 people; I was assuming that they are 600 works > representing > >>>>> fewer than 600 people, in other words people could submit > >>>>> > >>> more than > >>> > >>>>> one work, in which case, as I said, the number of works > >>>>> > >>> submitted per > >>> > >>>>> person would also have to be figured into the equation somehow. > >>>>> Besides, if one person submits ten pieces and another > >>>>> > >>> person submits > >>> > >>>>> one, the ten pieces by the one person couldn't be considered > >>>>> independent entries in the same way one of those ten could be > >>>>> considered independent of the one from the other person, and > >>>>> independence is also an assumption that must be met in order to > >>>>> consider the probability of acceptance to be the same for all > >>>>> entries. > >>>>> Katharine > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Diana Bloomfield wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Okay, Chris. Here is it-- straight from my resident > statistician > >>>>>> here: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If they were the only 3 people from that institution > who applied, > >>>>>> AND if judging was completely random, then the > >>>>>> > >>> probability of this > >>> > >>>>>> is roughly 1 in 64 (key word: roughly). If more than > >>>>>> > >>> that applied > >>> > >>>>>> from this same institution, and only 3 got in, then the > >>>>>> > >>> calculation > >>> > >>>>>> will be more complex. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hope that helps. :) > >>>>>> On Jan 17, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Christina Z. Anderson wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Where else but this list can I ask these weird > questions about > >>>>>>> chemistry and math and computers and alt??? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OK for you math people (Yves?): If there is a show and 600 > >>>>>>> entries, and 150 are accepted, there is a 1 in 4 chance of > >>>>>>> acceptance. If 3 people from the same institution > are accepted > >>>>>>> what percent chance is that--is it 1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 or a > >>>>>>> > >>> 1.5% chance > >>> > >>>>>>> or is it a more complex formula? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Forgive the off topic request but it does relate to > >>>>>>> > >>> photo as 3 of > >>> > >>>>>>> our program got into a photo show and I want to be able to > >>>>>>> mathematically brag about it to the dept. head/dean. > >>>>>>> Chris > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Christina Z. Anderson > >>>>>>> Assistant Professor > >>>>>>> Photo Option Coordinator > >>>>>>> Montana State University > >>>>>>> CZAphotography.com > >>>>>>> _______________ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > ________________________________________________________________ > Bogdan Karasek > Montréal, Québec bogdan@bogdanphoto.com > Canada www.bogdanphoto.com > > "I bear witness" > ________________________________________________________________ > > > >
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