RE: math question verrrrrry off topic
LOL! LOL! :-D
You guys are great! Thanks for the morning laugh!
Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bogdan Karasek [mailto:bkarasek@videotron.ca]
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:25 AM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> Subject: Re: math question verrrrrry off topic
>
> Hi,
>
> I taught Philosophy for 32 years in a Junior College; heard
> them all.
> I believe you. :) Had a student who came to me in similar
> circumstances, except he had the wrong teacher; he thought I
> was the Phys Ed teacher.
>
> Bogdan
>
> Katharine Thayer wrote:
> > While we're way off topic, once when I was teaching
> statistics, a guy
> > appeared at my office door just as I was going to the classroom to
> > give the last lecture of the term, and said, "I haven't
> come to class
> > all term; have I missed anything?" True story.
> > kt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Dave S wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I am OT again. If it gets too much, just let me
> know. I don't
> >> know, somehow as I grow older, I seem to like things on
> the lighter
> >> side.
> >>
> >> Tonight I went to a meeting. I worked with university
> students a lot.
> >> Tonight I chatted to a young sophomore. He is really a smart guy.
> >> During the
> >> chat, I asked him how early did he have to go to school
> (because it
> >> is cold here in MI in the morning). He said it doesn't
> matter because
> >> he skipped most of his classes (he is an engineering student.
> >> Engineering subjects are more standardized and "fixed"
> especially for
> >> freshmen/sophomores so you can learn them yourself from
> textbook and
> >> homeworks).
> >>
> >> Then he said, "for my 1st and 3rd semester I skipped
> almost all the
> >> classes, and I got a GPA of 3.9. The 2nd semester I
> attended almost
> >> all of my classes, and I got a GPA of 3.6; so my
> conclusion is it is
> >> better to skip classes."
> >>
> >> Talk about making conclusion from statistical data, huh? :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Katharine Thayer [mailto:kthayer@pacifier.com]
> >>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:49 PM
> >>> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> >>> Subject: Re: math question verrrrrry off topic
> >>>
> >>> :--)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 18, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Diana Bloomfield wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hey Katharine,
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know-- maybe. I honestly didn't read the other
> answers.
> >>>> :)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 18, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Katharine Thayer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hmm, I thought that's what we all already have said, isn't it?
> >>>>> That that theoretical probability (1/4x1/4x1/4) would
> hold only if
> >>>>> assumptions were met, and since assumptions are
> obviously not met
> >>>>> (for example, judging is not a random lottery of course
> >>>>>
> >>> but is done
> >>>
> >>>>> on the basis of criteria, arbitrary or otherwise but
> certainly not
> >>>>> random). Also, no one has said whether the 600 entries
> >>>>>
> >>> are 600 works
> >>>
> >>>>> or 600 people; I was assuming that they are 600 works
> representing
> >>>>> fewer than 600 people, in other words people could submit
> >>>>>
> >>> more than
> >>>
> >>>>> one work, in which case, as I said, the number of works
> >>>>>
> >>> submitted per
> >>>
> >>>>> person would also have to be figured into the equation somehow.
> >>>>> Besides, if one person submits ten pieces and another
> >>>>>
> >>> person submits
> >>>
> >>>>> one, the ten pieces by the one person couldn't be considered
> >>>>> independent entries in the same way one of those ten could be
> >>>>> considered independent of the one from the other person, and
> >>>>> independence is also an assumption that must be met in order to
> >>>>> consider the probability of acceptance to be the same for all
> >>>>> entries.
> >>>>> Katharine
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Diana Bloomfield wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Okay, Chris. Here is it-- straight from my resident
> statistician
> >>>>>> here:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If they were the only 3 people from that institution
> who applied,
> >>>>>> AND if judging was completely random, then the
> >>>>>>
> >>> probability of this
> >>>
> >>>>>> is roughly 1 in 64 (key word: roughly). If more than
> >>>>>>
> >>> that applied
> >>>
> >>>>>> from this same institution, and only 3 got in, then the
> >>>>>>
> >>> calculation
> >>>
> >>>>>> will be more complex.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hope that helps. :)
> >>>>>> On Jan 17, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Christina Z. Anderson wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Where else but this list can I ask these weird
> questions about
> >>>>>>> chemistry and math and computers and alt???
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> OK for you math people (Yves?): If there is a show and 600
> >>>>>>> entries, and 150 are accepted, there is a 1 in 4 chance of
> >>>>>>> acceptance. If 3 people from the same institution
> are accepted
> >>>>>>> what percent chance is that--is it 1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 or a
> >>>>>>>
> >>> 1.5% chance
> >>>
> >>>>>>> or is it a more complex formula?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Forgive the off topic request but it does relate to
> >>>>>>>
> >>> photo as 3 of
> >>>
> >>>>>>> our program got into a photo show and I want to be able to
> >>>>>>> mathematically brag about it to the dept. head/dean.
> >>>>>>> Chris
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Christina Z. Anderson
> >>>>>>> Assistant Professor
> >>>>>>> Photo Option Coordinator
> >>>>>>> Montana State University
> >>>>>>> CZAphotography.com
> >>>>>>> _______________
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