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RE: math question verrrrrry off topic



LOL!  LOL!   :-D

You guys are great! Thanks for the morning laugh!


Dave  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bogdan Karasek [mailto:bkarasek@videotron.ca] 
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:25 AM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> Subject: Re: math question verrrrrry off topic
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I taught Philosophy for 32 years in a Junior College;  heard 
> them all. 
> I believe you. :)  Had a student who came to me in similar 
> circumstances, except he had the wrong teacher;  he thought I 
> was the Phys Ed teacher.
> 
> Bogdan
> 
> Katharine Thayer wrote:
> > While we're way off topic, once when I was teaching 
> statistics, a guy 
> > appeared at my office door just as I was going to the classroom to  
> > give the last lecture of the term, and said, "I haven't 
> come to class  
> > all term; have I missed anything?"  True story.
> > kt
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Dave S wrote:
> > 
> >> Well, I am OT again. If it gets too much, just let me 
> know. I don't 
> >> know, somehow as I grow older, I seem to like things on 
> the lighter 
> >> side.
> >>
> >> Tonight I went to a meeting. I worked with university 
> students a lot.
> >> Tonight I chatted to a young sophomore. He is really a smart guy.  
> >> During the
> >> chat, I asked him how early did he have to go to school 
> (because it 
> >> is cold here in MI in the morning). He said it doesn't 
> matter because 
> >> he  skipped most of his classes (he is an engineering student. 
> >> Engineering subjects are more standardized and "fixed" 
> especially for 
> >> freshmen/sophomores so you can learn them yourself from 
> textbook and 
> >> homeworks).
> >>
> >> Then he said, "for my 1st and 3rd semester I skipped 
> almost all the 
> >> classes, and I got a GPA of 3.9. The 2nd semester I 
> attended almost 
> >> all of my classes, and I got a GPA of 3.6; so my 
> conclusion is it is 
> >> better  to skip classes."
> >>
> >> Talk about making conclusion from statistical data, huh?   :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Katharine Thayer [mailto:kthayer@pacifier.com]
> >>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:49 PM
> >>> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> >>> Subject: Re: math question verrrrrry off topic
> >>>
> >>> :--)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 18, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Diana Bloomfield wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hey Katharine,
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know-- maybe.  I honestly didn't read the other 
> answers.  
> >>>> :)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 18, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Katharine Thayer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hmm, I thought that's what we all already have said, isn't it?
> >>>>> That that theoretical probability (1/4x1/4x1/4) would 
> hold only if 
> >>>>> assumptions were met,  and since assumptions are 
> obviously not met 
> >>>>> (for example, judging is not a random lottery of course
> >>>>>
> >>> but is done
> >>>
> >>>>> on the basis of criteria, arbitrary or otherwise but 
> certainly not 
> >>>>> random).  Also, no one has said whether the 600 entries
> >>>>>
> >>> are 600 works
> >>>
> >>>>> or 600 people; I was assuming that they are 600 works 
> representing 
> >>>>> fewer than 600 people, in other words people could submit
> >>>>>
> >>> more than
> >>>
> >>>>> one work, in which case, as I said, the number of works
> >>>>>
> >>> submitted per
> >>>
> >>>>> person would also have to be figured into the equation somehow.
> >>>>> Besides, if one person submits ten pieces and another
> >>>>>
> >>> person submits
> >>>
> >>>>> one, the ten pieces by the one person couldn't be considered 
> >>>>> independent entries in the same way one of those ten could be 
> >>>>> considered independent of the one from the other person, and 
> >>>>> independence is also an assumption that must be met in order to 
> >>>>> consider the probability of acceptance to be the same for all 
> >>>>> entries.
> >>>>> Katharine
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Diana Bloomfield wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Okay, Chris.  Here is it-- straight from my resident 
> statistician
> >>>>>> here:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If they were the only 3 people from that institution 
> who applied, 
> >>>>>> AND if judging was completely random, then the
> >>>>>>
> >>> probability of this
> >>>
> >>>>>> is roughly 1 in 64 (key word: roughly).  If more than
> >>>>>>
> >>> that applied
> >>>
> >>>>>> from this same institution, and only 3 got in, then the
> >>>>>>
> >>> calculation
> >>>
> >>>>>> will be more complex.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hope that helps. :)
> >>>>>> On Jan 17, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Christina Z. Anderson wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Where else but this list can I ask these weird 
> questions about 
> >>>>>>> chemistry and math and computers and alt???
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> OK for you math people (Yves?):  If there is a show and 600 
> >>>>>>> entries, and 150 are accepted, there is a 1 in 4 chance of 
> >>>>>>> acceptance.  If 3 people from the same institution 
> are accepted 
> >>>>>>> what percent chance is that--is it 1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 or a
> >>>>>>>
> >>> 1.5% chance
> >>>
> >>>>>>> or is it a more complex formula?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Forgive the off topic request but it does relate to
> >>>>>>>
> >>> photo as 3 of
> >>>
> >>>>>>> our program got into a photo show and I want to be able to 
> >>>>>>> mathematically brag about it to the dept. head/dean.
> >>>>>>> Chris
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Christina Z. Anderson
> >>>>>>> Assistant Professor
> >>>>>>> Photo Option Coordinator
> >>>>>>> Montana State University
> >>>>>>> CZAphotography.com
> >>>>>>> _______________
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> --
> ________________________________________________________________
>    Bogdan Karasek
>    Montréal, Québec                     bogdan@bogdanphoto.com
>    Canada                               www.bogdanphoto.com
> 
>                       "I bear witness"
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