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RE: possible answer to archivalness comparison between carbon gum andp
RE: possible answer to archivalness comparison between carbon gum andpt/pd
I don't know who you consider *real* artists. Lots of folks parading
around these days calling themselves by that name. We have even seen
*real* art, as it was, made by monkeys throwing paint from buckets on
However,the real artists from the past did indeed obsess a lot about
the permanence of their materials, especially painters and their
pigments. The fact that many contemporary artists do not so obsess
does not decide the issue for me.
I consider it best practice to work toward maximum image permanence
with any given process. Why would one do otherwise?
At 11:25 PM -0500 2/29/08, Judy Seigel wrote:
However, I might mention than when I visited the Societe de
Francais Photographie in Paris I was allowed,as a member, to view
some prints in their collection. There I saw some gum prints in
color by Demachy that were to die for, that showed no evidence of
Which could also have been because the Demachy's were stored in the
society archive under ideal (or perfect !) conditions.
But I repeat what I've said here before... We obsess about
archivality because we're afraid photography isn't "real" art.
"Real" artists do no such thing -- they smear house paint, or mud,
or finger paint on whatever paper or cardboard or the back of an
envelope or a placemat at the local pizzaria & the collectors fight
Has anyone ever heard a question about whether R. Crumb's drawings
on placemats, or Rauschenberg's "combines" or stuffed goat or
thousands of others I'm not thinking of right now are "archival"?
(In fact I read a
recent admiring review in either Artforum or Art in America of a
show in which yellowing and cracking of age had been artfully
In these media, patina of age is, as noted, either an added value or
simply a fact of life (or time) & not a problem. So what is our
problem ? True, you don't want a photograph to fade *noticeably* in
your lifetime, but to worry about whether platinum is more
"archival" than gum, or vice versa, is ...... unnecessary.
(And IMO caused by brain washing... which may be the "correct"