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Hi Marek,
Here:
I uploaded a scan of my color swatches to compare the reds
we have been talking about. Anytime I try a new color I paint a swatch of
my stock mix on a piece of paper and keep those in a file. It was actually
Christopher James who gave me the idea--he said to paint small swatches and
store them in a plastic slide page file. I make bigger strips like you see
on my website.
Anyway, hope the colors translate well from my server to
yours but at least a comparison will be visible between the brilliance of the
Ferrari red, the deep bloodiness of the PR 179, and the other two in question,
178 and 175.
Better to show the colors than talk about the differences
between penny and copper red :)
Chris
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:29
PM
Subject: RE: P. Maroon
Actually I have been using perylene maroon in my tricolor work
for a while now with indantrone blue and nickel azo yellow (PY150). It gives a
wonderfully balanced prints with palette shifted to a nice and expanded range
of greens and browns. No screaming pinks or reds are possible in this
combination. Indantrone blue gives the gum prints a punch, not quite possible
with thalo blues. The effect is similar to using cyanotype as a blue layer,
but for me it is easier to control as it is all gum.
I am intrigued
by the comments on the PR175 pigment. When I looked at the printed (or on
line catalog from Daniel Smith) it looked so much like perylene maroon, that I
did not bother to try it. Now I want o try it to see how it works for
me.
I just came back from a trip to Alaska and have plenty of pictures to
print. My favorite were taken in a garden in Anchorage and are close-ups of
flowers. As I was taking pictures I was already putting names of pigments to
be used to bring the colors of different flowers to life. This will give me an
oppotrunity to drag out little used pigments for those saturated deep yellows,
hot pinks, magentas, shades of purple and violets, etc.
Marek
>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:02:11 -0700
> From:
kthayer@pacifier.com
> Subject: Re: P. Maroon
> To:
alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
>
> Rajul, If you were asking about
perylene maroon as a substitute for
> alizarin crimson, as per a recent
thread, then I'd urge even more
> strongly to consider PR 175.
>
> I just remembered I have a page on my site from several years ago
> that has rough paint swatches of some different "magentas" that I
> found recommended for tricolor in a number of different gum texts ,
> along with my comments about them. If you'll look at the other
> swatches in comparison to the alizarin crimson, it shouldn't be too
> hard to see that the PR 175 is the closest match to alizarin
>
crimson. I wasn't trying to match the swatches in value, so the deep
>
scarlet swatch is deeper and richer than the alizarin crimson, but a
>
drop of water would probably make them a perfect match, as the hue is
>
relatively close.
>
>
http://www.pacifier.com/~kthayer/html/Magentas.html
>
> Perylene
maroon wasn't included in that sample of swatches, since it
> wasn't
recommended by any of the texts I looked at, but take a look
> at
handprint's swatches of PR 179 for a rough comparison.
>
> I've
been remodeling my website off and on for the last couple of
> years,
and the galleries are still offline, or I'd show you a bunch
> of
tricolors that were made using PR 175 over a number of years,
> but for
the moment, just look at the apricots on the main page;
> that's a
typical example of my tricolor work using PR 175 as the
> "magenta." It
is a lovely deep rich scarlet that combines
> beautifully with other
color layers to make rich jewel-like colors.
>
>
http://www.pacifier.com/~kthayer/
>
> Hope any of that is
useful,
> Katharine
>
>
> On Aug 18, 2008, at 4:45
PM, Katharine Thayer wrote:
>
> > Odd, it's listed in the new
DS catalog, but I don't find it on the
> > page where the colors are
shown in swatches. Well, never mind, I'm
> > not questioning your
information, just puzzled why they didn't take
> > it out of the
catalog.
> >
> > W&N and Rowney also market a Perylene
Maroon (PR 179) but if you
> > need something in the Daniel Smith
line, I'd suggest their PR 175,
> > Deep Scarlet, which for years
and years was my favorite red for
> > tricolor gum. Not sure what
you're looking for (what hue range and
> > value range and what kind
of printing you want to use it for) but
> > this is a deep rich
scarlet, which when I was comparing many
> > different pigments for
tricolor a couple of years ago, I found to
> > be remarkably similar
in appearance to alizarin crimson (PR 83)
> > but lightfast. Hope
any of that is useful,
> > Katharine
> >
>
>
> >
> > On Aug 18, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Rajul
wrote:
> >
> >
> >> The local art store (the
only one) informs me that Perylene Maroon
> >> is no longer
stocked by Daniel Smith.
> >> Can anyone suggest a close
second?
> >>
> >> Thanks! Rajul
>
>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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