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Re: Ruined 3rd tricolor gum print! Grrrr...

The coarseness is mostly due to the texture of plain paper negative but I
agree that cutting back the pigment will improve it somehow since it's
still heavy to my eyes when compared to the yellow and magenta layers I
did before. Will continue with this one anyway -> just to see what


23 Eylül 2008, Salı, 12:50 am tarihinde, Katharine Thayer yazmış:
> Loris, I concur that you might do well to cut the pigment back a bit
> more (going by the whites of the eyes and by the coarseness of the
> texture in the midtones). Reducing the pigment in the same amount of
> gum, or using the same amount of pigment and adding more gum,  are
> essentially the same solution.
> Whether it's too dark is hard for me to say without the other colors
> (I can't judge the cyan by itself without seeing how it interacts
> with the other colors.)    Like Henk, my tendency when printing the
> cyan first is to print it too dark, so I prefer to print it last
> where I can see it as part of the whole rather than as an isolated
> standalone print.  But as I said before,  we all have different ways
> of thinking about these things, and if printing the cyan first works
> well for you, as it does for Keith, that's what you should do.  I'll
> be interested to see how the finished print turns out.
> Katharine
> On Sep 22, 2008, at 1:12 PM, Loris Medici wrote:
>> Thank you all people! Now I'm getting somewhere; indeed, the
>> pigment was
>> too much... I did another test print, see the progress below:
>> http://www.loris.medici.name/gum/phtalo/
>> I think I can still cut some more pigment. The result is still too
>> - not
>> dark but let say -> low contrast. Of course, one reason of this is the
>> fact that I'm using paper negatives -> those give low contrast
>> because of
>> the paper's texture. Will make another try (after finishing this one)
>> using less dichromate (10% instead of 20%) and slightly more exposure
>> (19mins, ~ +1/3 stop) and see what happens. I think I can use slightly
>> more contrast in the shadows.
>> Thank you all again!
>> I liked much Keith's approach and will continue that way. Katharine's
>> explanation about her workflow is also logical and was noted. I noted
>> Chris' "dilute the coating solution" suggestion too and may try it
>> later
>> according to the current situation...
>> Please provide your comments about the images above.
>> Thanks in advance & best regards,
>> Loris.