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I'm going to try some with my first foray into
pt/pd, hopefully in a few days.
Paul
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Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:31
PM
Subject: Re: Artistico 300lb SP Extra
White
I agree with Neal about using the Fabriano for pt/pd printing.
I have used it for gum-overs (after soaking the paper in oxalic acid to
allow for pt/pd printing), but without the added gum, I don't think the pt/pd
by itself on the Fabriano is very satisfactory, especially compared with
COT320.. I love the 300 lb Fabriano for gum printing, but not much else.
COT320 does come in a white, or used to, so that might keep everything
on the cool side for your prints. It's the best (in the affordable
range) paper for pt/pd printing, in my opinion. And though it's not like
300 lb paper, it's fairly sturdy. I've tried TwinRocker, and while I
really like that paper and it makes for beautiful prints-- every pt/pd print I
have ever made with it resulted in those little black spots during
development. It didn't matter what size or batch I ordered, I could
count on at least one black spot-- usually more-- whenever I used TwinRocker.
I always thought that was a shame, because I do like that paper a lot.
The very best paper I have ever used, bar none, for cyanotype and for
pt/pd printing is Ruscombe Mills Buxton paper; unfortunately, the cost is out
of sight (~ $20 a sheet now, last I checked).
On Dec 2, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Neal Wilson wrote:
I
tried Artistico in various weights and my personal experience was that even
after acidification it was difficult to clear in comparison with COT320,
Arches Platine, Weston, and Stonehenge. I tried all the normal clearing bath
options at increasing strength and at increasing temperature, and it just
wouldn't clear for me. I wound up giving my remaining stock of Artistico to
my kids for drawing. There were just too many other papers I liked that
didn't give me the aggravation. Your mileage may vary. It may have been my
water, or the amount of EDTA in my Ferric, or a number of other variables.
If it's available locally, it's always worth buying a couple of sheets and
testing under your real world conditions.
Neal
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:11:28 -0800 From: david@davidashcraftgallery.comSubject:
Artistico 300lb SP Extra White To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.caWas
wondering if any of the pt/pd printers have used Artistico 300lb SP
Extra White paper and if so how? In Arentz 2nd edition Platinum
& Palladium Printing book I saw the recommendation for acidification,
but this was for HP. Found a really great deal on the SP which is why
I ask. I am currently using Arches Platine and trying out the
Twinrocker paper, I like the thicker papers.
I am just getting started in pt printing and haven't settled on any
particular papers yet and don't enjoy a lot of experimentation... oh to be
walking the forest trails and beach combing with my camera or making
finished prints.
Subject matter I want to print now is winter scenes of snow covered
forests and frozen waterfalls to be printed on the cool side. The
other is the California coast and some portraits that I want to print on the
warm side. I plan on using Rising White and Rising Natural matting for
each portfolio to match the print and paper tone; will not show brush marks
but the paper color around the image.
Any advice is appreciated. Oh ya, the miracle brush is working
out great... and it is sexy!!! I knew I was going to enjoy doing alternative
processes!
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