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RE: haunted VDB

Well, good luck then.

No I don't know that paper. Sorry.


-----Original Message-----
From: Joao Ribeiro Globo [mailto:ribeiro.joao@globo.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:30 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: haunted VDB

Hi Loris,

I don't know any gold plater, i would have to research.
But I do have some gold and I worked with AR before (and a lot) plus I'll do
it in a chemistry lab with fume hoods etc.
Have any of you used a paper called Oxford white?

On 02/10/2009, at 10:03, Loris Medici wrote:

> Don't you have any gold plater near/around you? As I said before it 
> would be less cheap and I add now: far easier and infinitely less 
> dangerous to purchase few grams from them instead of dealing with aqua 
> regia!!!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joao Ribeiro Globo [mailto:ribeiro.joao@globo.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:57 PM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> Subject: Re: haunted VDB
> Hi Judy,
> I'm not sure it is the plastic as some pictures changed and others 
> didn't.
> I can buy selenium powder here but the cost is hi (higher than silver
> nitrate)
> Not to start that argument again but I'm planning producing gold salts 
> using Lyan's method in PF.
> The thing is I like the brown color and gold will shift it to purple 
> black isn't it?
> Well, trying is part of the game, who knows I might fall in love when 
> I see it in my hands.
> Thanks,
> Joao
> On 01/10/2009, at 23:07, Judy Seigel wrote:
>> I'm wondering if that plastic sleeve the print was stored in was 
>> something you'd used before... There are plastics that simply destroy 
>> photographs. I remember many years ago my mother put all her family 
>> photographs in an album with pages in plastic sleeves, for her 
>> grandchildren... by the time we actually inherited it, just a few 
>> years later, the degradation of the prints was striking -- tho these 
>> were color photos and the chemistry is obviously different.
>> However, I had some of the same photographs, stored in paper or under 
>> glass, so I could measure how much hers had faded in that relatively 
>> brief time. (If I'd been trying to fade them I couldn't have done
>> better.)
>> As for as selenium toner is concerned, if you can get your hands on 
>> some selenium, that is, the plain chemical itself, you can mix up a 
>> selenium toner without the fixer.  I don't remember where I got my 
>> selenium (about 28 years ago), tho of course in those days sale of 
>> chemicals was much more loosey goosey than today... it was also 
>> expensive -- but ounce for ounce of the working solution not all that 
>> terrible.. and MUCH more flexible than KRS. (I never did understand 
>> why they put it in fixer-- tho that's not this e-mail.)
>> The old photo books or formularies should have the formula for 
>> selenium toner, or I could probably dig up that old one.  However, 
>> I'm wondering what's wrong with just plain gold toner??  (Is this a 
>> good or bad time to buy gold chloride ? -- I don't follow that 
>> nowadays, since gum bi just shrugs off gold. But if memory serves, 
>> when the market is down, so is gold? Whichever, per print toned it's 
>> not so horrendous.  (You only tone the successes.) Also, as I recall 
>> (tho I haven't used it lately) the color is lovely.
>> Not to mention -- have you noticed galleries stressing the "gold" in 
>> "gold-toned prints"?  (Sounds so much better than "selenium toned.")
>> Judy

Joao Ribeiro
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