RE: haunted VDB
Well, good luck then. No I don't know that paper. Sorry. Regards, Loris. -----Original Message----- From: Joao Ribeiro Globo [mailto:ribeiro.joao@globo.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:30 PM To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: Re: haunted VDB Hi Loris, I don't know any gold plater, i would have to research. But I do have some gold and I worked with AR before (and a lot) plus I'll do it in a chemistry lab with fume hoods etc. Have any of you used a paper called Oxford white? Best, Joao On 02/10/2009, at 10:03, Loris Medici wrote: > Don't you have any gold plater near/around you? As I said before it > would be less cheap and I add now: far easier and infinitely less > dangerous to purchase few grams from them instead of dealing with aqua > regia!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joao Ribeiro Globo [mailto:ribeiro.joao@globo.com] > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:57 PM > To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca > Subject: Re: haunted VDB > > Hi Judy, > > I'm not sure it is the plastic as some pictures changed and others > didn't. > I can buy selenium powder here but the cost is hi (higher than silver > nitrate) > Not to start that argument again but I'm planning producing gold salts > using Lyan's method in PF. > The thing is I like the brown color and gold will shift it to purple > black isn't it? > Well, trying is part of the game, who knows I might fall in love when > I see it in my hands. > Thanks, > Joao > > On 01/10/2009, at 23:07, Judy Seigel wrote: > >> >> I'm wondering if that plastic sleeve the print was stored in was >> something you'd used before... There are plastics that simply destroy >> photographs. I remember many years ago my mother put all her family >> photographs in an album with pages in plastic sleeves, for her >> grandchildren... by the time we actually inherited it, just a few >> years later, the degradation of the prints was striking -- tho these >> were color photos and the chemistry is obviously different. >> However, I had some of the same photographs, stored in paper or under >> glass, so I could measure how much hers had faded in that relatively >> brief time. (If I'd been trying to fade them I couldn't have done >> better.) >> >> As for as selenium toner is concerned, if you can get your hands on >> some selenium, that is, the plain chemical itself, you can mix up a >> selenium toner without the fixer. I don't remember where I got my >> selenium (about 28 years ago), tho of course in those days sale of >> chemicals was much more loosey goosey than today... it was also >> expensive -- but ounce for ounce of the working solution not all that >> terrible.. and MUCH more flexible than KRS. (I never did understand >> why they put it in fixer-- tho that's not this e-mail.) >> >> The old photo books or formularies should have the formula for >> selenium toner, or I could probably dig up that old one. However, >> I'm wondering what's wrong with just plain gold toner?? (Is this a >> good or bad time to buy gold chloride ? -- I don't follow that >> nowadays, since gum bi just shrugs off gold. But if memory serves, >> when the market is down, so is gold? Whichever, per print toned it's >> not so horrendous. (You only tone the successes.) Also, as I recall >> (tho I haven't used it lately) the color is lovely. >> >> Not to mention -- have you noticed galleries stressing the "gold" in >> "gold-toned prints"? (Sounds so much better than "selenium toned.") >> >> Judy > Joao Ribeiro jr@joaoribeiro.com (11) 9607-2106 www.joaoribeiro.com
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