RE: haunted VDB
Well, good luck then.
No I don't know that paper. Sorry.
Regards,
Loris.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joao Ribeiro Globo [mailto:ribeiro.joao@globo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:30 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: haunted VDB
Hi Loris,
I don't know any gold plater, i would have to research.
But I do have some gold and I worked with AR before (and a lot) plus I'll do
it in a chemistry lab with fume hoods etc.
Have any of you used a paper called Oxford white?
Best,
Joao
On 02/10/2009, at 10:03, Loris Medici wrote:
> Don't you have any gold plater near/around you? As I said before it
> would be less cheap and I add now: far easier and infinitely less
> dangerous to purchase few grams from them instead of dealing with aqua
> regia!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joao Ribeiro Globo [mailto:ribeiro.joao@globo.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:57 PM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> Subject: Re: haunted VDB
>
> Hi Judy,
>
> I'm not sure it is the plastic as some pictures changed and others
> didn't.
> I can buy selenium powder here but the cost is hi (higher than silver
> nitrate)
> Not to start that argument again but I'm planning producing gold salts
> using Lyan's method in PF.
> The thing is I like the brown color and gold will shift it to purple
> black isn't it?
> Well, trying is part of the game, who knows I might fall in love when
> I see it in my hands.
> Thanks,
> Joao
>
> On 01/10/2009, at 23:07, Judy Seigel wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm wondering if that plastic sleeve the print was stored in was
>> something you'd used before... There are plastics that simply destroy
>> photographs. I remember many years ago my mother put all her family
>> photographs in an album with pages in plastic sleeves, for her
>> grandchildren... by the time we actually inherited it, just a few
>> years later, the degradation of the prints was striking -- tho these
>> were color photos and the chemistry is obviously different.
>> However, I had some of the same photographs, stored in paper or under
>> glass, so I could measure how much hers had faded in that relatively
>> brief time. (If I'd been trying to fade them I couldn't have done
>> better.)
>>
>> As for as selenium toner is concerned, if you can get your hands on
>> some selenium, that is, the plain chemical itself, you can mix up a
>> selenium toner without the fixer. I don't remember where I got my
>> selenium (about 28 years ago), tho of course in those days sale of
>> chemicals was much more loosey goosey than today... it was also
>> expensive -- but ounce for ounce of the working solution not all that
>> terrible.. and MUCH more flexible than KRS. (I never did understand
>> why they put it in fixer-- tho that's not this e-mail.)
>>
>> The old photo books or formularies should have the formula for
>> selenium toner, or I could probably dig up that old one. However,
>> I'm wondering what's wrong with just plain gold toner?? (Is this a
>> good or bad time to buy gold chloride ? -- I don't follow that
>> nowadays, since gum bi just shrugs off gold. But if memory serves,
>> when the market is down, so is gold? Whichever, per print toned it's
>> not so horrendous. (You only tone the successes.) Also, as I recall
>> (tho I haven't used it lately) the color is lovely.
>>
>> Not to mention -- have you noticed galleries stressing the "gold" in
>> "gold-toned prints"? (Sounds so much better than "selenium toned.")
>>
>> Judy
>
Joao Ribeiro
jr@joaoribeiro.com
(11) 9607-2106
www.joaoribeiro.com