RE: list home decisions
I was going to offer hosting the list without charge, but it seems like Gord has thought about it and prefer not to have such arrangement. As you noticed, I have a web hosting service (note my email address). The service is not that expensive. With the service we can setup a mailing list (like I can set up alt-photo-process-list@dsoemarko.us) in 2 minutes and the list will be up immediately. I think we don't want the list to be associated with any one individual, but what we can do it apply for a domain name (I even checked it, alt-photo-process-list.com or .org are available). If we use the company which I am using right now, the annual fee is only about $80 with the new domain name. If only 10 people are willing to donate, the donation will be less than $10 per year. If we have 20 people, it will be less than $5. If we have "too many" donators, then it will be a hassle to deposit all those 25-cent checks. ;-) As I am quite familiar with this company who host my domain name, I can set one up easily. Perhaps I can then invite Gord and a few list minders to have control over the list so that it won't be tied to me alone. And we will have more than just a mailing list. We can have our web sites too. While we don't use web site much on this list, one possibility is to use it to host the images when we have traveling portfolio, for example. What do you guys think? I am not imposing anything. Just trying to offer some thing which I happen to be familiar already. Of course, if you don't want the list to be related to me at all, I can always just recommend the hosting service to Gord and he can set up a new account there (or else where). I have used this hosting service for many years and have no complain about it. Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Gordon J. Holtslander [mailto:gjh@shaw.ca] > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:19 PM > To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca > Subject: Re: list home decisions > > Yikes > > All I'm after is whether people want to pursue a self-funded > autonomous organization. I think as little as $10.00 per > year by a significant number of people would provide plenty of funds. > > Hosting service cost between $20 to $100.00 per month > depending on there capabilities. > > I don't want the list swamped with details yet > > I just need to know if enough people will make the commitment. > > Please email me _privately_ if you would be willing to donate > $10 to $20 per year. Better ways of raising money will > likely be available. > > If we get enough people willing to make a commitment we can > then work on the details... > > So again please email me _privately_ if you would be willing > to donate to a self-funded alt-photo service. > > Gord > > Gordon J. Holtslander wrote: > > Hello Everyone > > > > Thanks to all for their words of support - I'm humbled :) - spent > > yesterday helping out a fundraising charity I help every year ( I > > usually take a vacation day to do this - unnecessary this > year) - we > > brought in over $150,000 - I do the computer stuff :) > > > > Many list members have offered hosting solutions. While I > initially > > wanted to go with an academic instituion I no longer believe one of > > these will provide the long term stability we are after. Unless an > > art-culture based institution steps forward and makes a long term > > committment - but even then - organizations change their > priorities ... > > > > I think the best long term solution is to host the list on > a private > > hosting service. There would be a cost involved eventually > - a number > > of members have offered ( or have already) set up something. Some > > members have access to hosting services at no cost - these > can be used > > as well. I don't want the list to be dependent upon the > charity of an > > individual or organization in the long term. > > > > Making this list survive in the long term will involve > spending money > > - not likely a significant amount - but some. Independence > cost money .... > > > > I need to know whether list members would be willing to > donate money > > to the costs of hosting this list on a private server. I would not > > want to make joining the list contingent upon paying a fee > - but some > > list members would have to donate some money. > > Perhaps something as simple as an annual print draw - List members > > donate a few prints - list members ( or anyone for that matter) buy > > tickets. The money from ticket sales funds the list > hosting service. > > Could provide us with the ability to host a more > sophisticated service. > > > > Rather than picking and choosing from free services we could have a > > good text mailing list and a web based service to upload images and > > datafiles without worry of censorship, copyright or > interference from > > any other organization. - but it would cost money and take a great > > deal of organization. > > > > If something like this was set up the details of how and where the > > list is hosted could be managed by a few individuals - > without having > > to worry about a panicked move from one charitable > > institution/individual to another. > > > > If this is the case, the list could eventually if needed, form some > > sort of non-profit to insure its long-term survival. > > > > It all depends on what value this community holds for itself. > > > > If we don't want to pursue an independently self-funded > > organization/arrangement I will move the list to one of > the academic > > sites that seems to insure the longest service. > > > > Your thoughts please > > > > Gord > > > > > -- > Gordon J. Holtslander > gjh@shaw.ca >
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