[alt-photo] Re: Arista II OHP transparencies/gum

[Mark Nelson]

Probably becaus it lts you print a 16 x 20 image with a little white  
boarder arind it. ?

Mark Nelson
www.PrecisionDigitalNegatives.com
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On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:46 PM, francis schanberger <frangst at gmail.com>  
wrote:

> First let me state that I am a big Arista OHP fan. With that said I  
> do think
> there are some minor issues with Arista.
>
> Depending on the day of the week it is made (OK, just when I have  
> ordered
> it) it might come with interleaving sheets of paper or none at all  
> with the
> same size of transparency film. When I first started using Arista  
> for the
> vandyke brown prints in May of 2008, every box came with the paper
> separators. Now none do except for one recent batch of 8 1/2" x 11".
>
> Occasionally I have noticed "dings" that look like something a car  
> collector
> might look for when evaluating a vintage mustang for possible body  
> work.
> They never caused me any problems with continuous tones in my  
> negatives.
>
> I haven't compared different substrates in a while although I got a  
> few
> samples of pictorico from the vendors booth at SPE.
>
> Like Paul said, it is a drop in replacement for Pictorico. I have  
> used my
> original workflow on both Pictorico and Arista which involve a  
> couple of
> curves to build up density. For some reason my students insist on  
> buying
> Pictorico because they are usually buying other things from B & H  
> and I
> provide them with a palladium curve built upon Arista. It still  
> works for
> their Pictorico.
>
> The lack of a clipped corner can frustrate students so I find myself  
> at
> workshops clipping the corner off of transparency film ahead of  
> time. I gave
> a Vandyke Brown workshop last Saturday (Bruce, I'll get you  
> handouts) and no
> one used the wrong side of the transparency film.
>
> So my question is "Who decided 17" x 22" was a good size for inkjet  
> media?"
>
> -francis
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Christina Anderson <zphoto at montana.net 
> >wrote:
>
>> OK I take back some that I said.
>>
>> Inkpress is 7ml thick. PIctorico is 5.2 ml thick. Thus it is  
>> thicker than
>> Pictorico, or, at least, the Pictorico that came in the mail today.
>> Inkpress is milky just like Pictorico now that I look at it.  But  
>> it does
>> not have the cut corner.
>>
>> Why I am confused is I bought a box of it when I did the workshop at
>> Photographer's Formulary--a 50 sheet box. I only have Pictorico and  
>> Arista
>> locally at our bookstore, not Inkpress, but I was confusing it with  
>> an off
>> brand like Staples.
>>
>> 8.5x11/50 sheets is a buck a sheet.
>>
>>
>> http://www.photoformulary.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabindex=2&tabid=9&CategoryID=103&langID=0
>>
>> So yes, Jeremy, Inkpress is a drop-in replacement for Pictorico and  
>> appears
>> to be equally thick but apparently not--the difference in thickness  
>> may
>> account for a difference in exposure times a bit.
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> Christina Z. Anderson
>> christinaZanderson.com
>>
>> On Apr 29, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Jeremy Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see that the Arista II is so much cheaper than the  
>>> Pictorico.
>>> Inkjet Art has Pictorico for $47
>>> (
>> http://www.inkjetart.com/cart/pictorico-premium-transparency-film-13x19-sheets-p-10252.html
>> )
>>> and the Arista II is $42
>>> (
>> http://freestylephoto.biz/39313-Arista-II-Inkjet-OHP-Transparency-Film-13x19-20-sheets
>> )
>>> for 20x 13"x19" sheets. (8.5x11 it's $19 for Pictorico and $17.99  
>>> for
>>> the Arista II.)
>>>
>>> Am I missing something?
>>>
>>> Chris, with the Inkpress was it also a drop-in replacement for  
>>> Pictorico?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Christina Anderson <zphoto at montana.net 
>>> >
>> wrote:
>>>> Jeremy,
>>>> I have used both and have not had any problems with either.  Ink  
>>>> Press
>> is much thinner, more along the lines of the old Photo Warehouse I  
>> used to
>> use but doesn't smear.  Arista is by far the nicer of the two and is
>> essentially a close enough dupe of Pictorico but perhaps thinner  
>> and also no
>> cut corner so you have to watch it.
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Christina Z. Anderson
>>>> christinaZanderson.com
>>>>
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