[alt-photo] Re: Arista II OHP transparencies/gum

[ender100 at aol.com]

Dan iPhone! hehehehhe I think I meant to say:


Probably because it (17 x 22) lets you print a 16 x 20 image with a bit of a white border around it!!!


heheheheeh 

Probably becaus it lts you print a 16 x 20 image with a little white boarder arind it. ? 






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From: Mark Nelson <ender100 at aol.com>
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Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Arista II OHP transparencies/gum


Probably becaus it lts you print a 16 x 20 image with a little white boarder arind it. ? 
 
Mark Nelson 
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On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:46 PM, francis schanberger <frangst at gmail.com> wrote: 
 
> First let me state that I am a big Arista OHP fan. With that said I > do think 
> there are some minor issues with Arista. 
> 
> Depending on the day of the week it is made (OK, just when I have > ordered 
> it) it might come with interleaving sheets of paper or none at all > with the 
> same size of transparency film. When I first started using Arista > for the 
> vandyke brown prints in May of 2008, every box came with the paper 
> separators. Now none do except for one recent batch of 8 1/2" x 11". 
> 
> Occasionally I have noticed "dings" that look like something a car > collector 
> might look for when evaluating a vintage mustang for possible body > work. 
> They never caused me any problems with continuous tones in my > negatives. 
> 
> I haven't compared different substrates in a while although I got a > few 
> samples of pictorico from the vendors booth at SPE. 
> 
> Like Paul said, it is a drop in replacement for Pictorico. I have > used my 
> original workflow on both Pictorico and Arista which involve a > couple of 
> curves to build up density. For some reason my students insist on > buying 
> Pictorico because they are usually buying other things from B & H > and I 
> provide them with a palladium curve built upon Arista. It still > works for 
> their Pictorico. 
> 
> The lack of a clipped corner can frustrate students so I find myself > at 
> workshops clipping the corner off of transparency film ahead of > time. I gave 
> a Vandyke Brown workshop last Saturday (Bruce, I'll get you > handouts) and no 
> one used the wrong side of the transparency film. 
> 
> So my question is "Who decided 17" x 22" was a good size for inkjet > media?" 
> 
> -francis 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Christina Anderson <zphoto at montana.net> >wrote: 
> 
>> OK I take back some that I said. 
>> 
>> Inkpress is 7ml thick. PIctorico is 5.2 ml thick. Thus it is >> thicker than 
>> Pictorico, or, at least, the Pictorico that came in the mail today. 
>> Inkpress is milky just like Pictorico now that I look at it.  But >> it does 
>> not have the cut corner. 
>> 
>> Why I am confused is I bought a box of it when I did the workshop at 
>> Photographer's Formulary--a 50 sheet box. I only have Pictorico and >> Arista 
>> locally at our bookstore, not Inkpress, but I was confusing it with >> an off 
>> brand like Staples. 
>> 
>> 8.5x11/50 sheets is a buck a sheet. 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.photoformulary.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabindex=2&tabid=9&CategoryID=103&langID=0 
>> 
>> So yes, Jeremy, Inkpress is a drop-in replacement for Pictorico and >> appears 
>> to be equally thick but apparently not--the difference in thickness >> may 
>> account for a difference in exposure times a bit. 
>> Chris 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Christina Z. Anderson 
>> christinaZanderson.com 
>> 
>> On Apr 29, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Jeremy Moore wrote: 
>> 
>>> I don't see that the Arista II is so much cheaper than the >>> Pictorico. 
>>> Inkjet Art has Pictorico for $47 
>>> ( 
>> http://www.inkjetart.com/cart/pictorico-premium-transparency-film-13x19-sheets-p-10252.html 
>> ) 
>>> and the Arista II is $42 
>>> ( 
>> http://freestylephoto.biz/39313-Arista-II-Inkjet-OHP-Transparency-Film-13x19-20-sheets 
>> ) 
>>> for 20x 13"x19" sheets. (8.5x11 it's $19 for Pictorico and $17.99 >>> for 
>>> the Arista II.) 
>>> 
>>> Am I missing something? 
>>> 
>>> Chris, with the Inkpress was it also a drop-in replacement for >>> Pictorico? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Christina Anderson <zphoto at montana.net>>> > 
>> wrote: 
>>>> Jeremy, 
>>>> I have used both and have not had any problems with either.  Ink >>>> Press 
>> is much thinner, more along the lines of the old Photo Warehouse I >> used to 
>> use but doesn't smear.  Arista is by far the nicer of the two and is 
>> essentially a close enough dupe of Pictorico but perhaps thinner >> and also no 
>> cut corner so you have to watch it. 
>>>> Chris 
>>>> 
>>>> Christina Z. Anderson 
>>>> christinaZanderson.com 
>>>> 
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