[alt-photo] Re: Hear, hear - HP Internegs (TROLL ALERT!)
Loris Medici
mail at loris.medici.name
Wed Jul 14 12:03:11 GMT 2010
>From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29:
"...The most likely derivation of the word troll can be found in the phrase
"trolling for newbies", popularized in the early 1990s in the Usenet group,
alt.folklore.urban (AFU). Commonly, what is meant is a relatively gentle
inside joke by veteran users, presenting questions or topics that had been
so overdone that only a new user would respond to them earnestly. For
example, a veteran of the group might make a post on the common
misconception that glass flows over time. Long-time readers would both
recognize the poster's name and know that the topic had been done to death
already, but new subscribers to the group would not realize, and would thus
respond. These types of trolls served as a practice to identify group
insiders. This definition of trolling, considerably narrower than the modern
understanding of the term, was considered a positive contribution. One of
the most notorious AFU trollers, Snopes, went on to create his eponymous
urban folklore website.
By the late 1990s, alt.folklore.urban had such heavy traffic and
participation that trolling of this sort was frowned upon. Others expanded
the term to include the practice of playing a seriously misinformed or
deluded user, even in newsgroups where one was not a regular; these were
often attempts at humor rather than provocation. In such contexts, the noun
troll usually referred to an act of trolling, rather than to the author..."
I know your name. (It's my 7th year here - I think... And I'm on-line since
'95...) According to the above, you definitely qualify as one...
-----Original Message-----
From: alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org On Behalf Of G
Schmitz
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:29 PM
To: The alternative photographic processes mailing list
Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Hear, hear - HP Internegs (TROLL ALERT!)
Hope you're not referring to me Loris, because if you are it's a cheap
shot. I joined this group about a week after it was created. And -
the archives are complete because I saved the early messages - Steve lost
'm.
I thought the point I raised, albeit in a confrontational manner about the
divide between young and old, analog and digital was legitimate.
You're not one of those digital geeks who goes ballistic when somebody says
that kind of technology sucks are you? I've followed your posts and respect
your work and your words. If I say digital sucks (and I think it does) why
is that off limits here (Troll Land). If you'd like, I'd be happy to lay my
case out in technological and corporate terms.
Flame off --greg
On 7/14/10 3:14 AM, Loris Medici wrote:
> <http://blogs.setonhill.edu/DenamarieErcolani/troll.jpg> TROLL ALERT!
>
> Please disregard the troll...
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