[alt-photo] Re: Hear, hear - HP Internegs (TROLL ALERT!)

G Schmitz coldbay1 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 14 12:17:51 GMT 2010


  Loris, you're being silly:

From: Walter Henry </whenry/>
Date: Monday, March 14, 1994

         alt-photo-process is a mailing list for the discussion of
         alternative photographic processes.  Alternative photographic
         processes traditionally have been those that do not use the main
         stream silver gelatin process, ie the printing paper that you
         buy at the photo shop. Gum Bichromate, Platinum, Carbon Dye
         Transfer, Cyanotype, Photogravure, Kallitype, Vandyke Brown,
         Color Xerox, are some processes that are currently thought of as
         alternative processes.

I joined on March 14, 1994.  Oh and I've been on the Internet since 
before there were any 9s in the year.  What's your point?

--greg

On 7/14/10 4:03 AM, Loris Medici wrote:
> > From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29:
>
> "...The most likely derivation of the word troll can be found in the phrase
> "trolling for newbies", popularized in the early 1990s in the Usenet group,
> alt.folklore.urban (AFU). Commonly, what is meant is a relatively gentle
> inside joke by veteran users, presenting questions or topics that had been
> so overdone that only a new user would respond to them earnestly. For
> example, a veteran of the group might make a post on the common
> misconception that glass flows over time. Long-time readers would both
> recognize the poster's name and know that the topic had been done to death
> already, but new subscribers to the group would not realize, and would thus
> respond. These types of trolls served as a practice to identify group
> insiders. This definition of trolling, considerably narrower than the modern
> understanding of the term, was considered a positive contribution. One of
> the most notorious AFU trollers, Snopes, went on to create his eponymous
> urban folklore website.
>
> By the late 1990s, alt.folklore.urban had such heavy traffic and
> participation that trolling of this sort was frowned upon. Others expanded
> the term to include the practice of playing a seriously misinformed or
> deluded user, even in newsgroups where one was not a regular; these were
> often attempts at humor rather than provocation. In such contexts, the noun
> troll usually referred to an act of trolling, rather than to the author..."
>
> I know your name. (It's my 7th year here - I think... And I'm on-line since
> '95...) According to the above, you definitely qualify as one...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org  On Behalf Of G
> Schmitz
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:29 PM
> To: The alternative photographic processes mailing list
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Hear, hear - HP Internegs (TROLL ALERT!)
>
> Hope you're not referring to me Loris, because if you are it's a cheap
> shot.    I joined this group about a week after it was created.  And -
> the archives are complete because I saved the early messages - Steve lost
> 'm.
>
> I thought the point I raised, albeit in a confrontational manner about the
> divide between young and old, analog and digital was legitimate.
> You're not one of those digital geeks who goes ballistic when somebody says
> that kind of technology sucks are you?  I've followed your posts and respect
> your work and your words.  If I say digital sucks (and I think it does) why
> is that off limits here (Troll Land).  If you'd like, I'd be happy to lay my
> case out in technological and corporate terms.
>
> Flame off  --greg
>
> On 7/14/10 3:14 AM, Loris Medici wrote:
>>    <http://blogs.setonhill.edu/DenamarieErcolani/troll.jpg>   TROLL ALERT!
>>
>> Please disregard the troll...
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