[alt-photo] Re: to shrink or not to shrink (registration)

Paul Viapiano viapiano at pacbell.net
Mon Mar 22 16:50:35 GMT 2010


Diana,

That's why I chose this image. All the tile and brickwork is minute and 
would show any problems.

I'll be adding a 3rd layer, hopefully today, of burnt sienna...kind of an 
old masters palette of indigo, raw sienna, burnt sienna that was suggested a 
while ago by Keith Gerling. I printed this image once before with the usual 
process colors, but the effect was garish.

I'm hoping to be brave enough to print the 3rd layer without using PVA size 
;-)

One difference for me in doing this print, is that I added a small amount of 
water to the coating solution and it made all the difference in coating 
smoothly on this paper in particular. So if I used 1.25 ml of gum/pigment, I 
added about 1 ml of water plus 1 ml of pot di.

Earlier prints that didn't use the added water (on this same paper) were 
very impressionistic, quite beautiful, but very different, ie, as follows:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/viapiano/4155163449/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/viapiano/4138755731/

The water-added coating seems to fill the valleys in the paper to create a 
smooth-er look, at least to my eye.

Thanks...Paul


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Diana Bloomfield" <dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net>
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Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:40 AM
Subject: [alt-photo] Re: to shrink or not to shrink (registration)


> Thanks, Paul.  I'm impressed.  A mis-registration would definitely  show 
> up on an image like this, I think, and -- and on my screen, at  least-- it 
> looks perfect.  I can't see any staining on those white  parts at all, 
> either-- really amazing.  (I really like the image,  too.)  Very nice. 
> Are you going to add other layers to this?  If so,  be sure and tell us 
> what happens.
>
> I'm definitely going to try this, then.  Thanks so much.
>
> Diana
>
> On Mar 22, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
>
>> Diana...
>>
>> I didn't size and I didn't preshrink. Paper is 10 x 11 inches, image 
>> size is approx 6 x 6 inches, give or take.
>>
>> Here's a scan after 2 layers, indigo and then raw sienna, waxed  paper 
>> neg.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/viapiano/4454749196/
>>
>> Please let me know what you think...anything at all!
>>
>> Thx..Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Bloomfield" 
>> <dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net
>> >
>> To: "The alternative photographic processes mailing list" 
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>> >
>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:18 AM
>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: to shrink or not to shrink (registration)
>>
>>
>>> Did I get that right, Paul-- that you didn't size with the Rives  and 
>>> got no staining?  (I now  can't find your post from  yesterday.)  Do 
>>> you remember which of the many Rives papers you  used?   I'm also 
>>> surprised you didn't pre-shrink and had no  registration problems. 
>>> Wow-- that would be great not not to have  to deal with pre-shrinking. 
>>> Thanks.  I'm gonna try that, too. :)
>>>
>>> Diana
>>> On Mar 22, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Trevor Cunningham wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, do you line all three-four negs up at once and then stick em   with 
>>>> the pin? I'm trying to figure out which registration system  i'd  like 
>>>> to use. I found a good site that sells registration tabs  and  such 
>>>> (posted it several months back), but if the pins work,  why fuss  and 
>>>> spend the cash? Paul, could you post a shot or two  of you reg  system?
>>>>
>>>> Paul Viapiano wrote:
>>>
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