[alt-photo] Re: Ultrastable -

[Don Bryant]

See the Berger thread on Apug. There maybe more clues there.

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Paul Viapiano
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I see in the Tod Gangler albumin video that the dichromate is mixed in with 
the albumin, no? But I still can't figure out the rest of the process.

Tod is seen in another video making a color tissue, and I know that the 
receptor sheet is the albumin. How does the tissue get sensitized? Need to 
read more...somewhere.

Paul



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> I'm just curious what Ultrastable material used for sensitizing...was it 
> dichromate?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Don Bryant" <donsbryant at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:08 AM
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Ultrastable - 4 color carbon videos of Tod 
> Ganbleandmore.r
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>
>> Charles Berger has a website, you may wish to contact him. He also has 
>> some
>> threads going on APUG.ORG.
>>
>> http://charlesberger.com/
>>
>> My bet is that it will be difficult to resurrect this material given 
>> today's
>> economy and EPA regulations, but you never know.
>>
>> Don
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org
>> [mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> Marek Matusz
>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:52 AM
>> To: alt photo
>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Ultrastable - 4 color carbon videos of Tod 
>> Ganble
>> andmore.r
>>
>>
>> For tst strips I use glossy injet paper. It is a fooolproof support and
>> mates very quickly. Best description is that it sucks the image from the
>> tissue.
>> I just got a chance to watch the videos. This is some serious science and
>> art at work. ANd the amount of detail that he pays attention to is
>> unbelevable. DOes anybody know if this is old stuff, or have the come 
>> back
>> to the market.
>> Marek
>>
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 11:01:24 -0700
>>> From: dtwilliams3 at comcast.net
>>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Ultrastable - 4 color carbon videos of Tod 
>>> Ganble
>> andmore.r
>>>
>>> On 8/4/2011 9:58 AM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
>>> > Interesting that he doesn't let them bond a long time after mating.
>>> > The transfer seems to happen in a few minutes and is very easy to pull
>>> > off the tissue support. I always thought that they had to mate for at
>>> > least 15 min, at least that's what I did following Vaughn and Jim's
>>> > recommendations...
>>> >
>>> > Paul
>>> Paul,
>>>
>>> The material used for the support makes a difference. When I mate to
>>> fixed-out photo papers or sized art papers I let them bond 20 to 40
>>> minutes. When I bond to Yupo, I only need about 10 minutes. In the
>>> videos he is using some sort of plastic support. I suspect that this
>>> permits the brief bonding time.
>>>
>>> Dan Williams
>>>
>>>
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