[alt-photo] Re: Ultrastable -

[Paul Viapiano]

Thanks, Don...I found the thread.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Bryant" <donsbryant at gmail.com>
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Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Ultrastable -


> See the Berger thread on Apug. There maybe more clues there.
>
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> Paul Viapiano
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> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Ultrastable -
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> I see in the Tod Gangler albumin video that the dichromate is mixed in 
> with
> the albumin, no? But I still can't figure out the rest of the process.
>
> Tod is seen in another video making a color tissue, and I know that the
> receptor sheet is the albumin. How does the tissue get sensitized? Need to
> read more...somewhere.
>
> Paul
>
>
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> From: "Paul Viapiano" <viapiano at pacbell.net>
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>
>> I'm just curious what Ultrastable material used for sensitizing...was it
>> dichromate?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Don Bryant" <donsbryant at gmail.com>
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>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:08 AM
>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Ultrastable - 4 color carbon videos of Tod
>> Ganbleandmore.r
>>
>>
>>> Charles Berger has a website, you may wish to contact him. He also has
>>> some
>>> threads going on APUG.ORG.
>>>
>>> http://charlesberger.com/
>>>
>>> My bet is that it will be difficult to resurrect this material given
>>> today's
>>> economy and EPA regulations, but you never know.
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org
>>> [mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Marek Matusz
>>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:52 AM
>>> To: alt photo
>>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Ultrastable - 4 color carbon videos of Tod
>>> Ganble
>>> andmore.r
>>>
>>>
>>> For tst strips I use glossy injet paper. It is a fooolproof support and
>>> mates very quickly. Best description is that it sucks the image from the
>>> tissue.
>>> I just got a chance to watch the videos. This is some serious science 
>>> and
>>> art at work. ANd the amount of detail that he pays attention to is
>>> unbelevable. DOes anybody know if this is old stuff, or have the come
>>> back
>>> to the market.
>>> Marek
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 11:01:24 -0700
>>>> From: dtwilliams3 at comcast.net
>>>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>>>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Ultrastable - 4 color carbon videos of Tod
>>>> Ganble
>>> andmore.r
>>>>
>>>> On 8/4/2011 9:58 AM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
>>>> > Interesting that he doesn't let them bond a long time after mating.
>>>> > The transfer seems to happen in a few minutes and is very easy to 
>>>> > pull
>>>> > off the tissue support. I always thought that they had to mate for at
>>>> > least 15 min, at least that's what I did following Vaughn and Jim's
>>>> > recommendations...
>>>> >
>>>> > Paul
>>>> Paul,
>>>>
>>>> The material used for the support makes a difference. When I mate to
>>>> fixed-out photo papers or sized art papers I let them bond 20 to 40
>>>> minutes. When I bond to Yupo, I only need about 10 minutes. In the
>>>> videos he is using some sort of plastic support. I suspect that this
>>>> permits the brief bonding time.
>>>>
>>>> Dan Williams
>>>>
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