[alt-photo] Re: list postings

[Richard Knoppow]

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From: "Christina Anderson" <zphoto at montana.net>
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Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 11:32 AM
Subject: [alt-photo] Re: list postings


>I sooo agree, Henk. We had a guest lecturer come to our 
>school one day, show work, talk about working the biz, and 
>more than once say to the students in answer to a question, 
>"I'm not ready to share that." I saw this happen one year 
>at APIS about some vaunted matte albumen process. My 
>thought has always been, if you're not willing to dish all, 
>then dish none. I would be THRILLED to see my students more 
>successful than I. Well, actually, ha, many are :) 
>Dam...this teaching gets in the way of making work :)
>
> But not to say the ol' days were all roses either. I 
> remember sharing and getting my head bit off, over and 
> over and OVER to the point that I almost quit the list 
> many times. At least that has subsided some.
>
> The benefit in the list is this: there is one thing to 
> reading about a process, say, VDB, in a book and doing it. 
> There is another to bouncing your experience off of 
> someone who does it all the time. That is the value of the 
> list. I have learned more about pt/pd, vdb, kallitype, 
> cyanotype, and mordancage from this list than books.
>
> If it wasn't for Jonathan Bailey and Judy Seigel on this 
> list, sharing formulae for mordancage and/or sources where 
> it was written about (e.g. BJP Marriage article) back in 
> 2001, which sharing I just reread, I would never have 
> known about the process. Now practicing it for over a 
> decade, I know a lot more, and it is far easier than the 
> difficult formulas out there, e.g. no need for bomb 
> strength hydrogen peroxide. and so on and so forth...
> Chris
>
> Christina Z. Anderson
> christinaZanderson.com
>
> On Dec 30, 2011, at 1:00 PM, henk thijs wrote:

     About a million years ago a local TV station had an 
all-day cooking show done by a local personality named Mike 
Roy. One time he had on as a guest the owner of a famous 
restaraunt. This fellow promised to show the audience how to 
make some specialty of the house. He got right to the last 
step and then said "of course this is a secret and I can't 
show you". Mike almost killed him right on camera. He told 
the guy that either you say something is a secret from the 
start and don't show any of it or be prepared to demonstrate 
the whole thing. Of course the guest was getting a 
tremendous amount of free publicity out of this and should 
have been willing to show how to do _something_ not 
necessarily the specialty he lived off of. I am sure that 
show was on more than fifty years ago, when local stations 
could still do local production, but I've never forgotten 
it.
     Personally, if I know something anyone who has a 
genuine interest is welcome to it. I can understand the 
necessity of sometimes keeping a secret but don't like 
people who pretend to share and then don't.
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk at ix.netcom.com