[alt-photo] Re: scanning negatives (negative carrier)

Mark Nelson ender100 at aol.com
Mon Jan 9 16:48:57 GMT 2012


I would agree with Francesco regarding wet mounting, especially with 4x5 and larger on the epson flatbed.  I have seen a lot of scans that were done without wet mounting on the Epson flatbeds and they were rife with Newton Rings. 

Mark Nelson
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On Jan 9, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Francesco Fragomeni <fdfragomeni at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just getting back in town and haven't had a chance to read the previous
> responses so excuse me if this has already been said. The best solution
> I've found is to simply wet mount the negatives for scanning. I was very
> turned off by the idea at first but having seen the results and having seen
> that it is no where near as messy as I thought it would be it is what I do
> in order to get the absolute best scans possible. I use a dedicated
> scanning met mount solution that is alcohol free and vaporizes as soon as
> the negative is removed. It leaves no residue and calls for no additional
> clean up. Dust is usually sucked to the edges of the negative and out of
> the image area, Newton rings are eliminated entirely, and the negative is
> held flatter then any other means. I would encourage you to give it a try.
> Just use the proper materials and you wont have any problems.
> 
> Best,
> Francesco
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Jacques Augustowski <py1hy at terra.com.br>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Should I shoot for scanning? Why not go digital all the way? So I
>> have to shoot two films for the same scene , one for scanning and one
>> for printing.  The video mentions a miracle developer, don't worry
>> about temperature, don't worry about developing time! IE in the 1600s
>> for TRIX and get a good negative. Probably he is using PS with its
>> maximum capacity, not to say hours in front of his monitor trying to
>> correct the curves and trying to get something in the Zone III. The
>> maximum, expose for the low lights and develop for the high lights is
>> dead. All those who use the zone system will be questioning his method
>> of testing the developers and film.
>> Jacques Augustowski
>>            PY1HY
>> On Seg 09/01/12 03:54 , Don Bryant donsbryant at gmail.com sent:
>> Oh, and one other thing, Diafine can be used for an easy no brainer
>> developer for roll films. There is a blog to ref.
>> 
>> http://figitalrevolution.com/2008/03/20/processing-black-and-white-film-for-
>> [1]
>> scanning-diafine-and-tx/
>> Diafine works well with more than just Tri-X. Most pictorial films
>> play well
>> with Diafine. Also D-23. Sandy King wrote an article for View Camera
>> mag. A
>> awhile back discussing the merits of Diafine and D-23, if I recall
>> correctly.
>> Personally, I prefer TMAX developer though for me a 1:9 or 1:7 works
>> better
>> than the 1:4 recommended dilution. Diafine has the added benefit of a
>> long
>> working life since it is a 2 part developer.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org [2]
>> [mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org [3]] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Ryuji Suzuki
>> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:33 AM
>> To: The alternative photographic processes mailing list
>> Subject: [alt-photo] scanning negatives (negative carrier)
>> I just developed a 35mm roll for the sole purpose of scanning with
>> Epson
>> V700.
>> The film dried with longitudinal curl, and it is difficult to go into
>> the
>> Epson
>> negative carrier straight. The scans are soft near the edges of the
>> strips.
>> But
>> this negative was exposed in a panoramic camera with rather tight
>> inter-frame
>> spacing (almost no space to hold down without blocking the image
>> area).
>> I imagine scanning freshly dried negatives rather routinely in the
>> future.
>> Is there a decent solution for this?
>> Also, is there any study/report on film developers optimized for
>> scanning?
>> --
>> Ryuji Suzuki
>> "Don't play what's there, play what's not there." (Miles Davis)
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