[alt-photo] Re: sizing options for color gum

Peter Blackburn blackburnap at hotmail.com
Wed Jan 18 18:50:07 GMT 2012


Hmmm. I don't know if I've ever used the soft press Fab. That's interestingthat it doesn't shrink for you. I'll have to order some and try it.

Peter 

 > From: dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:38:14 -0500
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: sizing options for color gum
> 
> Hey Peter,
> 
> Yeah-- it's only the Fabriano soft-press that I can get away with that  
> (not pre-shrinking).  Thanks for the information about the other  
> papers.  I did used to use Buxton for platinum and cyanotype printing,  
> many years ago-- It was expensive then, but nothing close to what it  
> is now.   I'm not sure who's buying it at these prices.  I love the  
> look and feel of TwinRocker, but I haven't checked their pricing in a  
> long time.
> 
> Diana
> On Jan 18, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Peter Blackburn wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It seems the only thing that changes about Fabriano is
> > the price. It's gone up again.
> >
> > But Fabriano is not the only AKD paper. Cartiera Magnani
> > Acquerello is also an AKD paper and
> >
> > performs much the same as Fabriano. It just doesn't come
> > in a soft press finish. Strathmore
> >
> > Imperial performs the same, but it only comes in cold
> > press. Canson Montval and Bockingford
> >
> > are pretty decent AKD papers, but they suffer from not
> > being 100% cotton. Buxton and Twinrockerare also good AKD papers,  
> > but you probably need to take out a second mortgage to use  
> > themregularly.
> >
> > It's so very amazing how we all have different experiences
> > here. My Fab. paper does shrink a bit—
> >
> > enough so, that it messes up my registration. So
> > preshrinking is always a part of my
> >
> > routine. Oh well . . . the printing and paper gods act in
> > strange ways.
> > Peter J. Blackburn
> >> From: dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net
> >> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> >> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:19:48 -0500
> >> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: sizing options for color gum
> >>
> >> I'll have to add here that with the Fabriano soft-press, I never pre-
> >> shrink.  It's amazing, really.  I hate to carry on so about this
> >> paper, because I don't there to be a run on it. ;)  I'm also  
> >> terrified
> >> they'll go and change it somehow.   Sounds like I have stock in it
> >> (that and PVA), but up to a certain size, you really don't have to  
> >> pre-
> >> shrink, and never a problem with registration.  I have not  
> >> experienced
> >> that with any other paper, though.
> >>
> >> Henry, I saw your other post.  If you're not printing much larger  
> >> than
> >> 9x7, I'd suggest not pre-shrinking with Fabriano soft-press, and see
> >> how it goes.
> >>
> >> Diana
> >> On Jan 18, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Marek Matusz wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Henry,
> >>> DO you soak the paper to preshrink it? I soak the paper first, then
> >>> let it dry and then apply the PVA/water size. The first soak not
> >>> only preshrinks the paper, but also raises the nap of the paper ,
> >>> which I think makes a difference on how the PVA is absorbed by the
> >>> paper and how the gum coats. In coatong with PVA make sure that you
> >>> pour enough of the mix on paper to be able to brush it evenly
> >>> without dry spots (puddles of liquid on the paper ar eno good  
> >>> eihter).
> >>> On the other hand if you have a workflow that you have established
> >>> and are happy with there is little reason to change it.
> >>>
> >>> Marek
> >>
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