[alt-photo] Re: gum workshop, now casein

Christina Anderson zphoto at montana.net
Fri Mar 30 13:14:00 GMT 2012


Loris,
So far I have only used powdered and readymade casein, the latter from Kremer. I got two forms from them, a very jellylike one and a thick, gluish like one.
Of course, I wasted a lot of it by learning the hard way not to mix stock pigment solutions. My metal salt pigments precipitated the casein into lumps overnight one day. All stock solutions had to be thrown away. So in that respect, WAY different than gum!
Chris

Christina Z. Anderson
christinaZanderson.com

On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:06 AM, Loris Medici wrote:

> I once purchased 2kg of casein (powder) from Kremer (has offices both
> in Europe and US) for a very reasonable price.
> 
> (That's probably a lot more than I will able to use in my whole
> remaining time! Best to limit the inconsistency; thanks to that
> purchase, I will be always using the same / familiar stuff...)
> 
> See here:
> http://www.kremerpigments.com/shopus/index.php?cat=0210&lang=ENG&product=63200
> (USD 32 per kg / USD 8 per 100g)
> 
> Regards,
> Loris.
> 
> 
> 30 Mart 2012 15:48 tarihinde Christina Anderson <zphoto at montana.net> yazdı:
>> Feta cheese, Peter? Do you think goat's milk performs differently than cow's milk? The caseins are different.
>> 
>> I've seen cottage cheese, powdered milk, sour cream, yogurt as possibilities, too. Those off the top of my head, but there could be others.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Peter Blackburn wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Christina: I'd be interested in the results your comparisons. I suspect casein turns out the be the easier, more forgiving process of the two. That's how it has been for me. It seems from past discussion here, most who do casein are using the powdered approach. I'm now using feta as my cheese of choice for casein.
>>> Peter J. Blackburn
>>> 
>>>> From: zphoto at montana.net
>>>> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:07:42 -0600
>>>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>>>> Subject: [alt-photo] gum workshop
>>>> 
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> 
>>>> Shameless self-promotion:
>>>> 
>>>> I will be teaching a gum workshop at Photographer's Formulary this summer for anyone interested. It is a go for sure and I have a great TA from South Dakota coming to help out, a former student of mine from a decade ago! Should be fun. Bring (some wine and) lots of creative ideas because the Formulary is in the middle of buck-nowhere which makes it a perfect place to work on your photography 24/7, and Montana is gorgeous in the late summer. August 5-10. And did I say that the food that Lynn and staff cook is worth the visit?
>>>> 
>>>> We will be doing simple gum negs as I have outlined on alternativephotography.com, but if you want to bring large format negs to work with, that is also fine.
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the URL for the workshop:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.workshopsinmt.com/Anderson-GumPrint-Aug.html
>>>> 
>>>> An added bonus is I will be researching casein at Eastman House this summer (thanks to a grant I received) and decided I might as well share my research with you one of the days, so you can compare the two processes side by side if you so desire. If not, we'll be gumming it up all day every day anyway.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> Christina Z. Anderson
>>>> christinaZanderson.com
>>>> 
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