[Alt-photo] Re: Albumen Gold Toning

[Kurt Nagy]

I appreciate the help Francis, 

I'll try what you suggested for tonight and probably call B&S tomorrow to see what they recommend.

Thanks

Kurt 

> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 21:12:25 -0400
> From: frangst at gmail.com
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: [Alt-photo] Re: Albumen Gold Toning
> 
> I just realized I have an albumen book somewhere but for the moment ....
> 
> this is for toning vandyke brown so use at your discretion.
> 
> I usually work with a 1% solution of each before making the work solution
> when I am toning with ammonium thiocyanate and am fairly certain I use
> thiourea at the same dilution before making a working strength solution.
> 
> 
> I just realized my grasp of dilutions has atrophied since inorganic chem in
> college but I generally mix about 50 cc of each stock in tap water to make
> 500 cc of working strength. The two working strength solutions get mixed
> together to tone about three 18" x 23" vandyke browns. Usually by the third
> print toning times have gotten very long (ten minutes).
> 
> 
> At the risk of steering you wrong (Albumen is a different albeit related
> beast), I would suggest working with the gold chloride at its current
> dilution and dilute the ammonium thiocyanate to 0.2%. Then mix equal
> proportions together for toning.
> 
> You should see a flash of red as you mix the two together before it settles
> down to form a colorless solution.
> 
> Here's a reference
> 
> *http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/GTV/gtv.html*
> *
> *
> *the toning section is about 4/5 of the page down.*
> *
> *
> *-francis
> *
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Kurt Nagy <kakarott76 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for the reply.
> >
> > No they are not, the Ammonium Thiocyanate is labeled as 2% and the Gold
> > Chloride is labeled as .2%.  Both are 250ml portions though.
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 20:35:23 -0400
> > > From: frangst at gmail.com
> > > To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> > > Subject: [Alt-photo] Re: Albumen Gold Toning
> > >
> > > Equal parts A and B at working strength. Just mix up enough to tone the
> > > prints you are working with because it won't keep once you mix the two
> > > together.
> > >
> > > are both solutions at 0.2% already?
> > >
> > > -francis
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Kurt Nagy <kakarott76 at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey all,
> > > >
> > > > I picked up a Albumen kit from Bostick and Sullivan not long ago and
> > was
> > > > going to try making a print tonight.  In the kit it has 250ml of
> > Ammonium
> > > > Thiocyanate (2%) and 250 ml Gold Chloride (.2%) but the documentation
> > does
> > > > not list the mixing formula for a working solution.  Their website only
> > > > mentions that the kit includes a "250ml part A and B Thiocyanate gold
> > toner.
> > > >
> > > > My initial guess (99% sure) would be its an equal part A/B mix but
> > looking
> > > > online I found this
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.alternativephotography.com/wp/processes/albumen/albumen-printing
> > > >
> > > > Diluting should only weaken the toner which would require a longer
> > toning
> > > > time frame correct?  A second question would be, is the gold toner a 1
> > shot
> > > > or can it be reused until exhausted?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Kurt
> > > >
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