[Alt-photo] Re: A DEFINITIVE ANSWER?

[BOB KISS]

DEAR DIANA & ERIC,
	As mentioned in my original e-mail *I did make a lighter print* but
it seems a shame to toss out a 20X24 palladium print that would be easily
correctible with a subtle bleaching if it were a silver gelatin.
	Further, I believed Ansel Adams when he said, making a musical
analogy, “The negative is the score.  The print is the performance!”  Like
most performing musicians who "shape" (volume and equalization) their sound
to the size and acoustics of the hall in which they will be performing, I
try to fine tune the tonality of my prints according to the type of lighting
under which they will be shown and viewed.  I have a track light set up to
view my dry prints that will be shown in galleries with spotlighting.  I
also ask the collectors who buy my prints what lighting will be on the
prints in the rooms where they intend to hang them.  The differences are not
enormous; they are subtle, but most of you on this list would see them and
the prints do sing when printed for the specific lighting.  So the "brighter
light" theory doesn't work here.
	Earlier today I received an e-mail suggesting that HBr, hydrobromic
acid, does work as a mild reducing agent for palladium.  The trick is
finding this on this little island called Barbados.  If I can find some and
try reducing this print I will report results.  The other option Is to cut
it up and use it to test new toners and new surface waxes.  Living here one
learns to waste as little as possible.  
		CHEERS!
			BOB

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On Behalf Of
Diana Bloomfield
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:50 PM
To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
Subject: [Alt-photo] Re: A DEFINITIVE ANSWER?

You could always use the darker one, and write up some esoteric reasoning
for why you preferred and ultimately chose ('preferred' and 'chose' being
the key words here) to print the image so dark.  That's probably what I
would do.  And then I'd get a brighter light bulb.  :)  You probably could
do some weird bleaching, but you'd get a less than desirable, uneven, grainy
print from it (I'm guessing).

Just bite the bullet, and re-print it.  Another option might be to add a gum
layer to it.  I'm not sure it would actually brighten it, but a layer of a
warm golden pigment, for instance, might make it more interesting and give
it a look that is more desirable.  And then write an esoteric piece about
that.  

So-- yes-- all in all, I'd go with the esoteric reasoning no matter what you
decide to do.  And if you make it as indecipherable as possible, who can
argue with that?

Diana

On Jul 18, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Eric Neilsen wrote:

> A brighter light bulb.... :  ) 
> 
> Eric Neilsen
> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> Dallas, TX 75226
> 214-827-8301
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On Behalf
Of
> BOB KISS
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:31 AM
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: [Alt-photo] A DEFINITIVE ANSWER?
> 
> DEAR LIST,
> 
>            Can I or can I not bleach (even slightly) a print made mostly
of
> palladium?  I have a print made of 95% palladium and it is a bit dark.  
> 
> 1)  Most books on pt/pd printing warn against using HCl as the first
> clearing bath with palladium prints because it can bleach them.         
> 
> 2)  Don Bryant posted Michael Mutmansky’s procedure for bleaching out
black
> spots on pt/pd prints by first placing some dilute HCl on the spot and
then
> some dilute chlorine bleach on the same spot.  Might this work on a macro
> scale by first immersing a print in the dilute HCl then into the dilute
> bleach?  
> 
> 3)  But, on the other hand, some people say that it is impossible to
bleach
> up a dark palladium print.  
> 
>            Am I the only one who finds this contradictory?  
> 
>            Soooooooooooooooooooooo, has anyone had success slightly
> bleaching up a dark palladium print?  Or does this sound feasible?
> 
> Of course I am making another lighter print but is there any way not to
> waste the dark one?
> 
> 
> CHEERS!
> 
> 
> BOB
> 
> 
> 
> Please check my website:  <http://www.bobkiss.com/>
http://www.bobkiss.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Live as if you are going to die tomorrow.  Learn as if you are going to
> live forever".  Mahatma Gandhi
> 
> 
> 
> "Earth" without "art" is just "Eh"!  (Anonymous graffiti posted on
Facebook)
> 
> 
> 
> “Madonne e fiori, trionfo eterno di gioventù!”  from Mattinata Fiorentina
by
> Antonella Ruggiero
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