selenium

Richard Sullivan (richsul@roadrunner.com)
Sun, 29 Jun 1997 15:24:59 -0600

>Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 16:54:54 -0400
>From: quryhous@midcoast.com (Jonathan Bailey)
>Subject: selenium
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>To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
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>
>Greetings-
>
>RE: the ammonium thiosulfate in Kodak rapid selenium toner.
>
>Does anyone know of a source of selenium (powder or liquid) without all the
>other ingredients Kodak uses?
>
>Does anyone know the role the ammmonium thiosulfate (or any other additive)
>might play in the action of the toner?
>
>Would there be any benefit in using a 100% selenium toner (assuming it were
>available) vs. Kodak's pre-packaged? I do understand that selenium,
>especially powdered selenium is quite nasty and needs special handling. My
>interest in this would be in relation to silver prints especially.
>
>Thanks for the help.
>
>Jon Bailey

I just searched quickly through my library looking for any do-it-yourself
selenium toning formulas and have found none. I seem to recall that I had
seen one and it used elemental selenium of which there are about 5 forms of
it listed in the Mercke Index. My handbook says that there is one form that
is soluble, a colloidal form, and that may be what is used.

Spectrum sell selenium powder (what form??) at $75.00 for 500 gm. Probably
enough to tone all of New Mexico and then some.

Aha.....

I just searched my InfoSelect database and this popped up:

>>Message:
Some time ago I asked for a formula for selenium toning and received a
couple of replies from the list. I just got my hands in the June 1942 issue
of American Photography and I have just found another one:

Hot water 700 cc.
Sodium sulphite 150 g
Powdered selenium 6 g
Boil until dissolved. Cool to 65 deg F and add while stirring
Ammonium chloride 190 g
Add water to make 1000 cc.
<< end message

I am sorry I didn't save the author's name. I also think this is similar in
strength to the Kodak stock solution. BUT...it has no thiosulfate!

Looks like you can make your own for about $1.25 per liter.

If folks think this is useful let me know and I'll stock the selenium or
make the toner for sale. I think I'll order some and try it myself.

Dick Sullivan

Bostick & Sullivan
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