re: selenium toning

Philippe Monnoyer (Philippe.Monnoyer@fundp.ac.be)
Sun, 02 Jul 1995 03:13:25 +0200

At 16:54 29/06/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Greetings-
>
>RE: the ammonium thiosulfate in Kodak rapid selenium toner.
>
>Does anyone know of a source of selenium (powder or liquid) without all the
>other ingredients Kodak uses?
>
>Does anyone know the role the ammmonium thiosulfate (or any other additive)
>might play in the action of the toner?
>
>
>Would there be any benefit in using a 100% selenium toner (assuming it were
>available) vs. Kodak's pre-packaged? I do understand that selenium,
>especially powdered selenium is quite nasty and needs special handling. My
>interest in this would be in relation to silver prints especially.
>
>Thanks for the help.
>
>Jon Bailey
>
>
Jon,

Here's my little contribution to your question:

A silver image obtained from a silver chlorobromide emulsion put in an
alkaline selenide becomes reddish, what is attributed to a selenium coating
on the silver particles. It should be a silver selenide layer I think.
Better results are obtained with lightly developped images.
One obtains a good selenium toning using sodium hyposelenite Na2Se2O3
obtained by action of a big excess of sodium thiosulfate (or ammonium
thiosulfate) on sodium selenosulfate. The latter being produced by
dissolving selenium in a boiling solution of sodium sulfite. The toning
solution has to have about 1 g of selenium per litre. The process is
accelerated by ammonium chloride.
For example, here is the T55 recipe (where you do not have thiosulfate,
surprisingly, maybe a mistake in the book):

Water QS 1000 ml
Anhydrous Sodium Sulfite 150 g
Boiling Selenium 6 g
Ammonium Chloride 190 g

To tone, add 5 parts of water. Tone for 3 to 10 minutes. Wash 15 min

Selenium may be used combined with sodium sulfide under a selenosulfide
form: 5 g of selenium for 135 g of sulfide in 200 ml warm water. The
solution is stabilized by a few ml of sodium bisulfite (or
hydrogenosulfite, NaHSO3). To tone, dilute it 1 + 20. A ferricyanide
bleached image takes in this solution, colder tones than with sulfide alone.

Source: "Chimie et Physique Photographiques", by Pierre Glafkides

Note:

Selenium from * selenium powder 99.5+% ref 20,965-1 28$/50g
without taxes

But I think Dick found cheaper.

The reason why you have to use all these components, I think, is that
sodium hyposelenite Na2Se2O3 is not commercially available. I checked in
many catalogues, and I work in a chem lab, so, ...

*
Sigma-Aldrich
1001 W. St. Paul Ave
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53233
phone: 414 273-3850
fax: 414 273-4979

I hope this answers to your question.

Philippe
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