Re: Bleaching palladium prints (Actually Trademark Discussion)

Philip Trauring (philip@cs.brandeis.edu)
Fri, 05 Dec 1997 12:09:50 -0500 (EST)

Not that has so much to do with the list, but the way companies lose their
trademarks is usually by using them as nouns instead of adjectives. To
illustrate, Bayer originally had the trademark for 'Aspirin' but had
advertising advocating the customer to 'buy aspirin' instead of 'buy
aspirin-brand analgesic' which is why they lost the trademark. (Another
example, of a more dubious bent but also from Bayer, is that Bayer also
originally trademarked 'Heroin')

- Philip

> Don,
>
> Whether or not a term is generic has nothing to do with its legality. When
> I was a kid any refrigerator was a frigidaire. Never once did we worry that
> we'd get sued or go to prison for it. It's sort of a catch-22 for the
> corporate world. Make you product ubiquitous enough, and it becomes common
> usage. Every ad man's (and woman's) dream is to bash the product name so
> deep in the public's psyche that that the first thing they think of when
> they think of bleach or a refrigerator is their product. Get irritated at
> Frigidaire or Clorox, not the public, they didn't set out to steal the
> name. GM spent millions trying to make this happen and then cries when it
> does. Boo hoo, I feel real sorry for them.
>
> Speaking of GM, one of the biggest boo boo's in public relations history
> was the roll out of Ford's Edsel. They hired the Glenn Miller Orchestra to
> be there, Glenn was long dead of course. No one noticed until afterwards
> that every musician was sitting behind a music stand with 2 foot high
> letters blarring out "GM."
>
> I got to make this short as I've got a lot of Xeroxing to do on my Canon
> copier.
>
> --Dick
>
>
>
>
>
> At 10:13 AM 12/5/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >In a message dated 97-11-22 13:13:40 EST, Dick Sullivan writes:
> >
> >>
> >>That's why I said plain Clorox. Ain't that sort of like frigidaire, a
> >>generic term now?
> >
> >I worked at Frigidaire for three months short of 30 years, and Frigidaire is
> >NOT a generic word. It is a registered trade mark, first of General Motors
> >(Frigidaire was a division of GM until 1979), and currently of White
> >Consolidated, who bought it. All 25 thousand GM-Frigidaire, and the couple of
> >thousand White-Frigidaire employees would scream if they thought people
> >considered it as generic.
> >
> >"Hover" sweepers have been concerned about mis-use of their name as well,
> >since in England, to vacuum your house is to hover it. And, of course, Xerox,
> >Coke and Kleenex are other old names. When we make copies, we do make Xerox
> >copies, as our xerographic copier is a Xerox brand.
> >
> >Not trying to flame, and I hope this doesn't start a long thread on trade
> >names, but you hit a sore spot with me. Almost as bad as people saying "Look
> >at the PITCHER" when they mean "Look at the picture." When I teach, I
> have a
> >picture of a pitcher that I immediatly bring out when that happens. Works
> >pretty well, too.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >Don
> >
>
>
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