Re: $$$$ how to price prints (gumprints in serie)


Jan van Dijk (janvdijk@bart.nl)
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:30:44 +0200


In 1983 Harm Botman (1952, Dutch) made an almost identical serie of 100
gumprints (35x50cm.) from the same negative (but with 8 copy-negatives). One
coating with good halftones and extra silvercolour in the shadows. On
Fabriano Licia 25 210 grams paper. No pre-coating. Three batches of 40
papers were coated at the same time and exposed at the same time in batches
of 8. Developed in two baths, 8 peaces a batch.
I met Harm Botman in 1983 when I organised in 1984 an exhibition on
nonsilver processes ("Edele procédé's) in The Hague with 5 artists
(including Johan de Zoete and me).
I forgot about the price a print, but it may have been around 100 Dutch
guilders each (around 40 US dollars).

Jan van Dijk.

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Judy Seigel <jseigel@panix.com>
Aan: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Datum: woensdag 21 juli 1999 10:20
Onderwerp: Re: $$$$ how to price prints

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>
>On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Stephen Harrison wrote:
>>
>> I understand this point of view but I must secretly admit that if I were
to
>> spend a large amount of money on an image, I would like my investment
>> somewhat preserved. I would like to believe if things got tight and
>
>You can believe whatever you like, but the record shows that most art
>never again fetches the price the first customer paid for it. This is
>fairly well known .... though it's contrary to the "conventional wisdom"
>about art appreciation. That's a myth fostered by the relatively few but
>VERY well publicized cases of increase, often astronomical increase, in
>value.
>
>The exception to this rule is when the art is old enough to have some
>vintage or antique value... unlikely in your life time.
>
>And a comment about assigning value using the cost of the materials, among
>other items. Bob, you left out the *labor* involved. I value my labor a
>lot more than 10 drops of palladium/platinum. Once you've got the moves
>down, you can bat out a pt/pd print practically like xerox, do an edition,
>10 editions.
>
>I never heard of an *edition* in gum printing, I would certainly never
>attempt one. If you count cost of the materials, a gum print should be
>practically free. But if you count the labor, well let's say the print has
>5 coats -- it should sell for 5 times what the platinum print sells for.
>More actually, because you could well ruin the print in any coat, making
>your yield even smaller.
>
>Judy
>
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