Re: AZO vs NEOVERA gaslight

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From: Steve Shapiro (sgshiya@redshift.com)
Date: 04/16/00-11:01:38 AM Z


Sounds like nice paper, to me.

The green shade to the balcks are often due to develdoper used colder than
recommended.

S. Shapiro
----- Original Message -----
From: Harald Leban <hleban@1012surfnet.at>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:52 PM
Subject: AZO vs NEOVERA gaslight

> Hello,
> some time ago I had this correspondence with W. Linne about the contact
> paper Josef Sudek has used. I donīt know the Bergger paper but maybe this
> text would be for interest:
>
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> *****************************+
> Neobrom was a manufacturer of very fine Photographic papers since 1914 but
> closed his production in 1998.
>
> NEOVERA was the last real "gaslight" contact paper with very low light
> sensitivity and flat contrast - ideal for printing high contrasty
platinum
> negs.(grade 1-2)
> It īs coated with a rich silver Chloride/iodide emulsion and if developed
in
> Metol/Hydrochinon it came out with a really olive green colour - most of
the
> Sudek īs work are printed on it - probably untoned.
> Another characteristic of this paper is the silk-screen surface - like the
> portrait-papers.
> Itīs a real contact paper because itīs sensitivity is only 10% of a
> enlarging paper.
>
> NEOTONA formerly called Neogaz paper is an enlarging paper but often used
as
> contact paper only - so by Sudek.
> It has a high glossy surface and a contrast grade about 3 .
> It has a Silver chloride/bromide emulsion and comes out with a warm black,
> slightly greenish.
> through the glossy surface all details come out very sharp - some
landscapes
> of Sudek I īve seen on it.
>
>
> < There is mention made of "tinted" enlarging papers
> <that he used to make some of his images. What would his choices have
> <been?
> This paper could be the CHAMOIS paper - it has a natural white(yellowish)
> paper base and I think a similar emulsion like NEOTONA but with
silk-screen
> surface.
>
>
> A friend of mine distributed Neobrom papers here in austria and so I had
the
> chance to work with it, too but as I said the production has closed and
> Neobrom was killed by "Investment-sharks"
>
> Some Czech artists namely Vaclav Jirasec are still working on this papers
> and safed the rest of the last productions.
> Other well known artists like Drtikol, Saudek, Berka .. have printed on
> these papers,too.
>
> As film developer I think Sudek used the Czech standard - the
> Hydrochinon/Metol developer or Glycin developers.
>
> *********************+
> Harald
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Bob Parker" <photobob124@yahoo.com>
> An: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 14. April 2000 04:19
> Betreff: Re: bergger azo paper
>
>
> > Would this paper be Neovera? or Neogas? It was
> > formerly produced in Czech republic and sold thru
> > Lotus for awhile several years ago. I have about 12
> > sheets of Neovera, and it gives a beautiful olive cast
> > to the print.
> >
> > Bob Parker
> >
> > --- Carl Weese <cweese@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > Kah,
> > >
> > > Kodak has *not* killed off Azo. They still make it,
> > > though not in as
> > > many sizes and weights as previously, and of course
> > > you won't find it
> > > stocked at the local camera store.
> > >
> > > Also, last I heard, Bergger's proposed new paper was
> > > *not* a clone of
> > > Azo (after all that would get them in trouble with
> > > Kodak) but rather a
> > > substitute for a discontinued European contact-speed
> > > paper -- who's name
> > > I'm afraid I don't remember. It was a paper much
> > > loved by the splendid
> > > photographer Josef Sudek.
> > >
> > > ---Carl
> > >
> > > --
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> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~cweese/
> > >
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