From: Steve Shapiro (sgshiya@redshift.com)
Date: 04/16/00-11:39:37 AM Z
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Shapiro <sgshiya@redshift.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: AZO vs NEOVERA gaslight
> Sounds like nice paper, to me.
>
> The green shade to the balcks are often due to develdoper used colder than
> recommended.
>
> S. Shapiro
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Harald Leban <hleban@1012surfnet.at>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:52 PM
> Subject: AZO vs NEOVERA gaslight
>
>
> > Hello,
> > some time ago I had this correspondence with W. Linne about the contact
> > paper Josef Sudek has used. I donīt know the Bergger paper but maybe
this
> > text would be for interest:
> >
>
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> > *****************************+
> > Neobrom was a manufacturer of very fine Photographic papers since 1914
but
> > closed his production in 1998.
> >
> > NEOVERA was the last real "gaslight" contact paper with very low light
> > sensitivity and flat contrast - ideal for printing high contrasty
> platinum
> > negs.(grade 1-2)
> > It īs coated with a rich silver Chloride/iodide emulsion and if
developed
> in
> > Metol/Hydrochinon it came out with a really olive green colour - most of
> the
> > Sudek īs work are printed on it - probably untoned.
> > Another characteristic of this paper is the silk-screen surface - like
the
> > portrait-papers.
> > Itīs a real contact paper because itīs sensitivity is only 10% of a
> > enlarging paper.
> >
> > NEOTONA formerly called Neogaz paper is an enlarging paper but often
used
> as
> > contact paper only - so by Sudek.
> > It has a high glossy surface and a contrast grade about 3 .
> > It has a Silver chloride/bromide emulsion and comes out with a warm
black,
> > slightly greenish.
> > through the glossy surface all details come out very sharp - some
> landscapes
> > of Sudek I īve seen on it.
> >
> >
> > < There is mention made of "tinted" enlarging papers
> > <that he used to make some of his images. What would his choices have
> > <been?
> > This paper could be the CHAMOIS paper - it has a natural
white(yellowish)
> > paper base and I think a similar emulsion like NEOTONA but with
> silk-screen
> > surface.
> >
> >
> > A friend of mine distributed Neobrom papers here in austria and so I had
> the
> > chance to work with it, too but as I said the production has closed and
> > Neobrom was killed by "Investment-sharks"
> >
> > Some Czech artists namely Vaclav Jirasec are still working on this
papers
> > and safed the rest of the last productions.
> > Other well known artists like Drtikol, Saudek, Berka .. have printed on
> > these papers,too.
> >
> > As film developer I think Sudek used the Czech standard - the
> > Hydrochinon/Metol developer or Glycin developers.
> >
> > *********************+
> > Harald
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: "Bob Parker" <photobob124@yahoo.com>
> > An: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 14. April 2000 04:19
> > Betreff: Re: bergger azo paper
> >
> >
> > > Would this paper be Neovera? or Neogas? It was
> > > formerly produced in Czech republic and sold thru
> > > Lotus for awhile several years ago. I have about 12
> > > sheets of Neovera, and it gives a beautiful olive cast
> > > to the print.
> > >
> > > Bob Parker
> > >
> > > --- Carl Weese <cweese@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > > Kah,
> > > >
> > > > Kodak has *not* killed off Azo. They still make it,
> > > > though not in as
> > > > many sizes and weights as previously, and of course
> > > > you won't find it
> > > > stocked at the local camera store.
> > > >
> > > > Also, last I heard, Bergger's proposed new paper was
> > > > *not* a clone of
> > > > Azo (after all that would get them in trouble with
> > > > Kodak) but rather a
> > > > substitute for a discontinued European contact-speed
> > > > paper -- who's name
> > > > I'm afraid I don't remember. It was a paper much
> > > > loved by the splendid
> > > > photographer Josef Sudek.
> > > >
> > > > ---Carl
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Workshop info and online galleries at:
> > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~cweese/
> > > >
> > >
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