Re: Gelabrom

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From: Sandy King (sanking@hubcap.clemson.edu)
Date: 12/18/00-08:32:11 AM Z


Hi Stefan,

Yes, I tried gelabrom several years ago at a time when I was working
a lot with carbro. I found it just as finicky as carbro, which is to
say "very finicky" without the transfer possibility.

More recently I hane been printing almost exclusively with carbon
transfer which I find to be much more consistent and dependable.

Best,

Sandy

>Dear Sandy
>
>Did you (or anybody else) try this process?
>
>I did it years ago, following the brief description of Luis' carbon
>book. As I remember, problem was the photographic paper.
>I tried some ordinary baryta paper and a bromoil printing one.
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks & Regards
>Stefan
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Sandy King <sanking@hubcap.clemson.edu>
>To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
>Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 1:54 AM
>Subject: Re: Gelabrom
>
>
>Gelabrom is essentially a variation of carbro. It is somewhat easier to
>work in that one of the most critical procedures of carbro, that of
>squeeging together the bromide with sensitized carbon tissue, is obviated
>bt the fact that the tissue is made in situ on the bromide. A disadvantage
>compared to carbro is that you are limited to the surface of the bromide
>printer, i.e. no transfer to another surface is possible.
>
>As in carbro the gelabrom the tonal scale is like the curve (S curve) of a
>silver print, the bromide printer used to make the pigment print. This
>makes it very different from a carbon print which has a very long straight
>line curve.
>
>Sandy King
>
>
>
>
>
> >Dear Burkhardt
> >
> >Yes I did.
> >
> >Basically it's very simple:
> >Coate pigmented gelatin on a properly developed and
> >fixed out bromide.
> >Apply a chromated bath very close to that used with carbro
> >which hardens the pigmented top coat and bleaches the silver
> >image below.
> >Than wash of unhardened gelatin and fixe out the bleached
> >out silver image.
> >
> >Problem is to find suitable bromides and inks, apply a good
> >and equal coating, and provide propperly temperated
> >processing conditions.
> >
> >Morre details can be found at Luis' 'Modern Carbon Printing'.
> >
> >Cheers
> >Stefan
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> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Burkhardt Kiegeland <bkiegeland@weisserlotus.co.at>
> >To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> >Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 8:58 PM
> >Subject: Gelabrom
> >
> >
> >In »Spirits of Salt«, published by Argentum in 1999, I find
> >short reference to a process called Gelabrom, a variation an
> >Carbro not needing transfer as well as carbon tissue.
> >
> >Is someone out there with some experience in this process?
> >
> >Thank you very much in andvance
> >
> >
> >Burkhardt kiegeland


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